Does Politics Interest You, Bore You, Or Otherwise?
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Time to fess up, I haven't voted in the last 2 GE's because none of the parties are worthy of my vote. They all a bunch of incompetent crooks IMO.
I'm totally bored by politicians and their lies, but remain interested in certain topics such as Trump because of the industrial scale corruption and attacks on democracy. Similarly but less so with Boris.
How about you?
I'm totally bored by politicians and their lies, but remain interested in certain topics such as Trump because of the industrial scale corruption and attacks on democracy. Similarly but less so with Boris.
How about you?
Politics shouldn't bore you and folk should take an interest IMO.
The problem with not voting means you are allowing the ruling cabal to do whatever they choose (to a degree). You don't have to vote for the 2, 3 or 4 main party's offerings, if more people voted for their local Independent or single issue candidate, it wouldn't take long before the main political Party's took more notice of the electorate. The English with the dire tory/Labour choice is utterly depressing and doesn't work well at all IMO.
The problem with not voting means you are allowing the ruling cabal to do whatever they choose (to a degree). You don't have to vote for the 2, 3 or 4 main party's offerings, if more people voted for their local Independent or single issue candidate, it wouldn't take long before the main political Party's took more notice of the electorate. The English with the dire tory/Labour choice is utterly depressing and doesn't work well at all IMO.
In honesty, I think I started paying the most attention post-Brexit. As a youngster, I never took much of an interest and probably couldn't name more than one party. As you age and the result can possibly affect you directly, it's natural to take more of an interest. That being said, like you, I can only vote for something I can get behind, and lately, that hasn't been much.
Unknown_User said:
Politics shouldn't bore you and folk should take an interest IMO.
The problem with not voting means you are allowing the ruling cabal to do whatever they choose (to a degree). You don't have to vote for the 2, 3 or 4 main party's offerings, if more people voted for their local Independent or single issue candidate, it wouldn't take long before the main political Party's took more notice of the electorate. The English with the dire tory/Labour choice is utterly depressing and doesn't work well at all IMO.
I have voted in every election, but fortunately my local incumbent MP has done well for the area, and seems one of the better ones ...The problem with not voting means you are allowing the ruling cabal to do whatever they choose (to a degree). You don't have to vote for the 2, 3 or 4 main party's offerings, if more people voted for their local Independent or single issue candidate, it wouldn't take long before the main political Party's took more notice of the electorate. The English with the dire tory/Labour choice is utterly depressing and doesn't work well at all IMO.
Agree with the quoted, just like to add that If all else fails, a spoiled ballot at least sends a slight message that you didn't think any of them were worth voting for...
I'd like to see a 'none of the above' or 'reopen nominations' as an option on every ballot, at least a formally record of the number of voters saying 'none of you are any good' might help drive change...
There is such significant influence from outside (above?) government, that many issues are dealt with in the same way no matter what flavour of government is in power. A few variables which are adjusted by different flavours of government are very important (like taxation, inheritance), however, those over which we have no control and where dissenting voices are censored the most, ie climate, immigration and currently the virus, appear to be controlled from 'elsewhere'. So rapidly losing interest in politics as so many appear to be utterly insincere.
Unknown_User said:
Politics shouldn't bore you and folk should take an interest IMO.
The problem with not voting means you are allowing the ruling cabal to do whatever they choose (to a degree). You don't have to vote for the 2, 3 or 4 main party's offerings, if more people voted for their local Independent or single issue candidate, it wouldn't take long before the main political Party's took more notice of the electorate. The English with the dire tory/Labour choice is utterly depressing and doesn't work well at all IMO.
It should not, your right but it does. I've voted once in my life time, probs never will again. The problem with not voting means you are allowing the ruling cabal to do whatever they choose (to a degree). You don't have to vote for the 2, 3 or 4 main party's offerings, if more people voted for their local Independent or single issue candidate, it wouldn't take long before the main political Party's took more notice of the electorate. The English with the dire tory/Labour choice is utterly depressing and doesn't work well at all IMO.
Growing up in Northern Ireland it was hard not to be influenced by tribal politics. I'd like to think of myself as a pragmatic centrist rejecting the extremes. Moved to Scotland in 2000 in the early days of devolution and the establishment of the Holyrood experiment, even then I felt this was a layer of government that was simply not required, but through the 2000s and the Blair administration, I paid only scant heed to what was going on. Voted as per my civic duty, but with no real passion or interest. Then the SNP won control of Holyrood in 2011, and all that changed. Salmond began banging the drum for an independence referendum to break up the UK, and almost unbelievably "Call me Dave" granted it. From then on I became very much involved in the circus of Scottish politics, and remain so now.
The current politics drives me potty - it’s all amateur points scoring and positioning. No, Kier Starmer wouldn’t have done a better job of the energy issues today than Boris, it’s a clusterf
k, if anyone had been able to see it coming they would have made out like bandits. And, no, no one would have spent serious money on gas storage a few years ago. Anyone claiming that they would is lying.
Another aspect is an inability to answer the sodding question. “Do you believe in X” is a yes or no answer. Instead we get a load of waffle, and that is part of the problem - none of them actually believe in anything. Boris wittering on about “green” while doing precisely the opposite in real terms is another take on it. Green = we should fly less. Actual = “its great that we can fly to America again”. Which is it ?
k, if anyone had been able to see it coming they would have made out like bandits. And, no, no one would have spent serious money on gas storage a few years ago. Anyone claiming that they would is lying. Another aspect is an inability to answer the sodding question. “Do you believe in X” is a yes or no answer. Instead we get a load of waffle, and that is part of the problem - none of them actually believe in anything. Boris wittering on about “green” while doing precisely the opposite in real terms is another take on it. Green = we should fly less. Actual = “its great that we can fly to America again”. Which is it ?
I take a passing interest, but have no affiliation, I can be a red about some things and a blue about others, something political parties seem very unaware of, that most people are not one or the other, hence the disinterest.
I do know one thing, I do not trust ANY of them, and do not believe a single word they say.
I do know one thing, I do not trust ANY of them, and do not believe a single word they say.
TheGreatDane said:
Never been interested before but since Brexit & Covid I became highly engaged.
After a few months of PMQ's and realising it's all a joke to them I'm back to my original interest levels.
Similar story here, to me it was watching the political media in the Covid briefings that cemented my indifference.After a few months of PMQ's and realising it's all a joke to them I'm back to my original interest levels.
To me politics is like the weather - it can be good, bad, something inbetween but I can't really do anything about it and getting angry at it is like getting angry that it's raining. I just need to put a jacket on and get on with life.
I love it. Have always loved it. Studied it as part of my degree years ago, continued to take an active interest after graduation.
Following politics has basically become a hobby.
Though have to say, the tribalism since 2016 puts me off. Politics has become like football, my team right or wrong. That’s boring.
Following politics has basically become a hobby.
Though have to say, the tribalism since 2016 puts me off. Politics has become like football, my team right or wrong. That’s boring.
Jawls said:
I love it. Have always loved it. Studied it as part of my degree years ago, continued to take an active interest after graduation.
Following politics has basically become a hobby.
Though have to say, the tribalism since 2016 puts me off. Politics has become like football, my team right or wrong. That’s boring.
Did you move into it as a career, or was the degree enough to put you off? Following politics has basically become a hobby.
Though have to say, the tribalism since 2016 puts me off. Politics has become like football, my team right or wrong. That’s boring.
I find it hard to trust or believe any politician, which is a sorry state of affairs….
Yes I’ve always taken an interest in politics and I’m looking forward to the next GE and not voting for Labour , lib not democratic ,or conningservtives ,
It looks like Cloustons SDP or Tice’s Reform for me. I’m not prepared to waste my vote on the least worst option anymore, we have paid a very high price to keep labour out , pragmatism is out of the window I’m going to vote with my heart this time !!
It looks like Cloustons SDP or Tice’s Reform for me. I’m not prepared to waste my vote on the least worst option anymore, we have paid a very high price to keep labour out , pragmatism is out of the window I’m going to vote with my heart this time !!
Edited by Ivan stewart on Friday 24th September 07:28
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