US citizen sells military secrets - gets caught
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Amateur medieval swordsman and TDS affflicted school teacher wife decide to take things into their own hands and attempt to sell US military information to another country.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10082963/...
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10082963/...
BBC article on this: https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-58920970
Making the couple out to be bumbling idiots. The wife had severe TDS, which the article leaves out. The article also notes that she had purple hair and wonders how a person with purple hair could possibly be a spy..... The BBC must think that spies still get around in trench coats and fedoras.
Making the couple out to be bumbling idiots. The wife had severe TDS, which the article leaves out. The article also notes that she had purple hair and wonders how a person with purple hair could possibly be a spy..... The BBC must think that spies still get around in trench coats and fedoras.
rodericb said:
BBC article on this: https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-58920970
Making the couple out to be bumbling idiots. The wife had severe TDS, which the article leaves out. The article also notes that she had purple hair and wonders how a person with purple hair could possibly be a spy..... The BBC must think that spies still get around in trench coats and fedoras.
And I cant find the word "leftist" in the BBC article whereas it's easy to find in the DM one. Making the couple out to be bumbling idiots. The wife had severe TDS, which the article leaves out. The article also notes that she had purple hair and wonders how a person with purple hair could possibly be a spy..... The BBC must think that spies still get around in trench coats and fedoras.
Randy Winkman said:
And I cant find the word "leftist" in the BBC article whereas it's easy to find in the DM one.
That's the nature of the respective publications. The BBC doesn't say anything about her TDS, tries to paint them as bumbling, misguided idiots and that:[quote]Mr.Toebbe was skittish at first, but eventually seemed to become comfortable with the "foreign official" he was selling to, unaware it was the FBI.
He even appeared to grow fond of them, writing in a note: "One day, when it is safe, perhaps two old friends will have a chance to stumble into each other at a cafe, share a bottle of wine and laugh over stories of their shared exploits"
Some court docs
The indictment has a detailed description of the nuclear reactor secrets Toebbes allegedly sold!
https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/21090725-t...
Country1 - who they tried to sell it to, told the FBI
https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/21090727-d...
The indictment has a detailed description of the nuclear reactor secrets Toebbes allegedly sold!
https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/21090725-t...
Country1 - who they tried to sell it to, told the FBI
https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/21090727-d...
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hstewie said:
hstewie said: Interesting that "country1" would inform the FBI
Assuming people usually don't offer to sell nuclear secrets to countries considered "friendly".
I believe in the first document (Indictment P7, Para 33) theres a statement something like "I hope this information keeps your sailors safe". I read this in two ways, either it's details of a weapon likely to be used against Country1 (most likely China/Russia/Canada(*1)) or it's safety information for technology being bought by Country1 (UK/Australia/Canada)...Assuming people usually don't offer to sell nuclear secrets to countries considered "friendly".
(*1) Bomb Canada!
Edited by tangerine_sedge on Saturday 23 October 10:07
Edited by tangerine_sedge on Saturday 23 October 10:07
bhstewie said:
hstewie said: Interesting that "country1" would inform the FBI
Assuming people usually don't offer to sell nuclear secrets to countries considered "friendly".
Making years ago I'm aware of someone who walked into the Russian Embassy and handed over the secret frequencies that various military radars operated at.Assuming people usually don't offer to sell nuclear secrets to countries considered "friendly".
As any fule no, radar transmits at high power, so whilst during development these frequencies are kept secret, once serious testing starts, anyone with a sensitive receiver within a hundred miles can find out the frequencies. All the ones handed over had been in use for at least a decade. The embassy called the police, handed him over and he spent some time inside.
spikeyhead said:
Making years ago I'm aware of someone who walked into the Russian Embassy and handed over the secret frequencies that various military radars operated at.
As any fule no, radar transmits at high power, so whilst during development these frequencies are kept secret, once serious testing starts, anyone with a sensitive receiver within a hundred miles can find out the frequencies. All the ones handed over had been in use for at least a decade. The embassy called the police, handed him over and he spent some time inside.
I suspect something like this. More PR benefit to be made vs the value of the info.As any fule no, radar transmits at high power, so whilst during development these frequencies are kept secret, once serious testing starts, anyone with a sensitive receiver within a hundred miles can find out the frequencies. All the ones handed over had been in use for at least a decade. The embassy called the police, handed him over and he spent some time inside.
They've been very silly.
spikeyhead said:
bhstewie said:
hstewie said: Interesting that "country1" would inform the FBI
Assuming people usually don't offer to sell nuclear secrets to countries considered "friendly".
Making years ago I'm aware of someone who walked into the Russian Embassy and handed over the secret frequencies that various military radars operated at.Assuming people usually don't offer to sell nuclear secrets to countries considered "friendly".
As any fule no, radar transmits at high power, so whilst during development these frequencies are kept secret, once serious testing starts, anyone with a sensitive receiver within a hundred miles can find out the frequencies. All the ones handed over had been in use for at least a decade. The embassy called the police, handed him over and he spent some time inside.
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