Morcocan man killed for parking outside Texans house.
Morcocan man killed for parking outside Texans house.
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Trevatanus

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11,349 posts

173 months

Thursday 21st October 2021
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Saw this on Facebook this morning, does not seem to be very much mainstream media coverage of it that I could find.
Man is parked in the street at 330 am, owner of the nearest house thinks he looks "suspicious", so he goes outside and blasts him with a handgun, inflicting fatal injuries.
10 days later, no charges brought.
I really do despair of this world, particularly the US.
https://www.thedailybeast.com/white-texas-property...

Eric Mc

124,807 posts

288 months

Thursday 21st October 2021
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That's normal and acceptable behaviour - for Texas.

Rule Number 1 in Texas - do not wander aimlessly or behave suspiciously around residential areas in the early hours of the morning.

Cliftonite

8,686 posts

161 months

Thursday 21st October 2021
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Link to a more accessible version of this story:

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/...

ChocolateFrog

34,954 posts

196 months

Thursday 21st October 2021
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As fked up as that obviously is.

I love to do that to the guy that tries our door handles atleast once a week because the police do fk all.

I kind of love and hate gun toting America in equal measure.

jeff m

4,066 posts

281 months

Thursday 21st October 2021
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We have a bit of crime wave at present, people are getting a bit jumpy.
The press are not helping with their reporting. if the criminal is white, they give a full description, Caucasian male, height , hair color etc. When they say "a man" or "a juvenile" there is very strong probability he is black. Not a difficult assumption when taking in to account the location of the offence..

We had a local occurrence with 2 to 6 armed juveniles in two cars conducting a series of robberies, the police said they drove off erratically, no mention of chasing them.
The response in a local sleepy forum that usually tops out at 5 posts, was 170, many of which had to be censored biggrin

People are getting angry at the media, the police and of course Biden (poor bu66er) whose only interest is the Democratic party.


Sheepshanks

39,311 posts

142 months

Thursday 21st October 2021
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I read about this somewhere else and the story of how the guy ended up there was a bit odd - some people have complicated lives. It was also said he was in the home-owners drive.

Obviously none of this means it's OK to randomly shoot people, but if you know you're at risk then why do things that might put you in danger?

Edited by Sheepshanks on Thursday 21st October 21:12

Superflow

1,707 posts

155 months

Thursday 21st October 2021
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Uh oh, looks like Nike better start boarding up.

Looks like he was creeping about on the guys property at night which is risky in the USA.

Countdown

47,403 posts

219 months

Monday 25th October 2021
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Superflow said:
Uh oh, looks like Nike better start boarding up.

Looks like he was creeping about on the guys property at night which is risky in the USA.
Was he? According to a couple pf articles I've read he was sitting in his own car

https://www.expressnews.com/news/article/Moroccan-...

Bacon Is Proof

5,740 posts

254 months

Monday 25th October 2021
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Countdown said:
Superflow said:
Uh oh, looks like Nike better start boarding up.

Looks like he was creeping about on the guys property at night which is risky in the USA.
Was he? According to a couple of articles I've read he was sitting in his own car

https://www.expressnews.com/news/article/Moroccan-...
CNN article quotes court documents stating that the shooter chased the deceased off his driveway then shot him after the deceased pointed a gun at him.
No gun found in the deceased's vehicle so both claims possibly just a fictitious defence.
Not sure how being parked in someone's driveway amounts to creeping around, but this is NP&E...

GroundZero

2,085 posts

77 months

Monday 25th October 2021
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I think all this comes back to the USA and their public gun ownership.
No matter what training, precautions or laws that government introduce over there, it seems when you have a population armed to the teeth that cases of mistaken identity, mistaken intention, arguments, dislikes, hates, gangs, and crime will use guns to further their means.
So many guns makes getting hold of one an fairly easy task.

Very different to armed populous in Europe, such as Switzerland, whereby once the person has done their national service in the armed forces they become part of the "stand-by" service and are able to keep their weapon.
Gun crime over there is a tiny fraction per head of population than what it is over in the USA.

Switzerland's last big gun crime was back in 2001 when a crazed person stormed a local parliament and killed 14 people then himself.
But in the USA this number is dwarfed by the killings that take place on a daily basis.

So is the difference national service before being allowed a gun? I'd say so as this plays a huge part in gun responsibilities.
Also unemployment and gang culture in the USA play a huge role in number of deaths.

Sheepshanks

39,311 posts

142 months

Monday 25th October 2021
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Countdown said:
Was he? According to a couple pf articles I've read he was sitting in his own car

https://www.expressnews.com/news/article/Moroccan-...

Things certainly seemed to have moved on from when the killer was apparently in the clear.

J4CKO

45,935 posts

223 months

Monday 25th October 2021
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Amazes me how bloodthirsty and callous some folk are, was on Facebook a group for dashcam videos and a Volvo driver ploughed into a cyclist on purpose and so many were saying "good", "Deserved that, "Hope he died" etc, his crime, cycling two abreast. the car that hit him had plenty of space to go around.

I think a lot of gun owners are responsible and don't really think of them very often, but some seem to be looking to contrive a situation to use it.

Imagine the Dash Cam Warrior types over here if given a firearm ?








Superflow

1,707 posts

155 months

Monday 25th October 2021
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The article in OP says he enjoyed going for 3am drives to ‘relax’ and was probably outside the guys house trying to get mobile reception...hmm

We don’t know what’s happened, but my guess is the Moroccan chap was out to commit a robbery as unemployed needs money, and it looks like he picked the wrong house.

The owner obviously felt threatened enough to take action and the law should protect him here.


Countdown

47,403 posts

219 months

Monday 25th October 2021
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Superflow said:
The article in OP says he enjoyed going for 3am drives to ‘relax’ and was probably outside the guys house trying to get mobile reception...hmm

We don’t know what’s happened, but my guess is the Moroccan chap was out to commit a robbery as unemployed needs money, and it looks like he picked the wrong house.

The owner obviously felt threatened enough to take action and the law should protect him here.
That's fantastic logic rolleyes

He was unemployed ---> he needed money ---> he was going to commit a robbery ---> It's reasonable to shoot him.



J6542

3,411 posts

67 months

Monday 25th October 2021
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It happened to a Scottish oil worker about 20 years ago in Texas. I think he broke down and went to knock on someone’s door for help and got blasted. I don’t think the home owner was charged either.

David A

3,711 posts

274 months

Monday 25th October 2021
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J6542 said:
It happened to a Scottish oil worker about 20 years ago in Texas. I think he broke down and went to knock on someone’s door for help and got blasted. I don’t think the home owner was charged either.
I remember that from a safety moment/ brief in the early 2000s in Houston. Legend/story was that he thought he was at his or friends house and was banging on the back door.

Also told don’t have road rage, they are likely armed smile

Superflow

1,707 posts

155 months

Monday 25th October 2021
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Countdown said:
Superflow said:
The article in OP says he enjoyed going for 3am drives to ‘relax’ and was probably outside the guys house trying to get mobile reception...hmm

We don’t know what’s happened, but my guess is the Moroccan chap was out to commit a robbery as unemployed needs money, and it looks like he picked the wrong house.

The owner obviously felt threatened enough to take action and the law should protect him here.
That's fantastic logic rolleyes

He was unemployed ---> he needed money ---> he was going to commit a robbery ---> It's reasonable to shoot him.


Yes,maybe if an altercation has happened on the owners property.

As said we don’t know the whole story,anyway I’m off to fill up got a 3am drive tonight just for kicks.