Rob Roberts MP
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bitchstewie

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233 months

Beati Dogu

9,348 posts

162 months

Monday 1st November 2021
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Great name for an MP though.

frisbee

5,481 posts

133 months

Monday 1st November 2021
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Diversity. It was a male staff member.

BIGDAI

412 posts

234 months

Monday 1st November 2021
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My M.P. Aren't l lucky!

Derek Smith

48,840 posts

271 months

Monday 1st November 2021
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BIGDAI said:
My M.P. Aren't l lucky!
The party that governs us all. Aren't we the lucky ones.


Edited by Derek Smith on Tuesday 2nd November 07:48

Rostfritt

3,098 posts

174 months

Monday 1st November 2021
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Beati Dogu said:
Great name for an MP though.
I did for a moment think it was Sideshow Bob from the Simpsons.

ClaphamGT3

12,038 posts

266 months

Tuesday 2nd November 2021
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Sounds like he needs to go

bitchstewie

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64,355 posts

233 months

Tuesday 2nd November 2021
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ClaphamGT3 said:
Sounds like he needs to go
Can you think of a reason he's been re-admitted?

Thinking more the way their membership rules work as by any obvious standard of decency I don't get how he's back in.

Roderick Spode

3,725 posts

72 months

Tuesday 2nd November 2021
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Article said:
The Conservative Party decided to suspend Mr Roberts for 12 weeks, twice the recommended duration.

Many senior MPs including Commons leader Jacob Rees-Mogg have previously urged Mr Roberts to stand down as a member of parliament following the panel's findings.

As Mr Roberts was suspended by an independent panel rather than a parliamentary committee, a legal loophole meant he was not subject to a recall petition - which could have led to a by-election being held in Delyn.
It would appear that due procedure has been followed - not defending the MP in question in the slightest, but as a recall petition was not possible, it falls to the individual MP to decide his own conscience. Herein lies the weakness of our parliamentary system - MPs cannot effectively be sacked by Parliament, other than for imprisonment longer than 12 months - but rely on the individual MP to do 'the right thing'. Readmitting him to the party after the 12 week suspension, but not reinstating the whip, seems to be a standard precedent. The SNP and Labour have done exactly this with various nefarious members in recent history.

Pete54

220 posts

133 months

Tuesday 2nd November 2021
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The key problem as I see it, is that the British political system relies upon MPs being 'honourable members'

In other words people of integrity and personal honour. 'An Englishman's word is his bond' etc etc.

Of course when you have people who do not represent those values - the system has virtually no remedy. When the PM decides on whether to enforce decent behaviour, or prefers to payoff an aggrieved party, then it becomes open season. When a PM openly lies to Parliament, or government ministers ignore Parliament it is very easy to see how standards and decency seem terribly old fashioned and constraining.

A society gets the government it deserves is one of those old adages - when people are prepared to allow this to happen the decline is very obvious.