Armed man shot by police

[Saleen836]

Man shot dead by police in Kensington....
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-59622...

[i4got]

"Alexis, who did not want to give his surname, told the BBC he saw police with assault rifles surround a black van and shoot"


Phew that could have been worse.

[spaximus]

Lets hope that the officers involved have good body camera footage of what went down and everything is beyond reproach.

Hope they are getting good help and advice

[The Mad Monk]

spaximus said:

Lets hope that the officers involved have good body camera footage of what went down and everything is beyond reproach.

Hope they are getting good help and advice

And if they are not?

[Charlie1986]

This day and age It’s not a clean kill the officer can be liable

[Greendubber]

The Mad Monk said:

spaximus said:

Lets hope that the officers involved have good body camera footage of what went down and everything is beyond reproach.

Hope they are getting good help and advice

And if they are not?

And if they're not it's st and unforgivable. An investigation could take years and years and end up with inquest after inquest, the officer would be rightly concerned that he could end up going to jail for doing his job. Let's wait what social commentators come out with, trial by media most likely by people who have no idea what they're talking about and will be completely unchallenged. I hope they're getting all the support available, no one goes to work wanting to kill someone. Fingers crossed a swift and concise press release from The Met appears soon.

IOPC are famously st, I wouldn't let them open a letter let alone an investigation into a police involved shooting. We'll see how many years it takes to find no wrong doing.

[julian987R]

We are missing a moron. Why does this warrant debate? A moron is dead. Lets move on.

[JagLover]

i4got said:

"Alexis, who did not want to give his surname, told the BBC he saw police with assault rifles surround a black van and shoot"

Phew that could have been worse.

[bitchstewie]

Sure I read that there's a massive armed response unit base or something in Kensington.

Doesn't seem the smartest move.

[Ayahuasca]

JagLover said:

i4got said:

"Alexis, who did not want to give his surname, told the BBC he saw police with assault rifles surround a black van and shoot"

Phew that could have been worse.

[spaximus]

The Mad Monk said:

spaximus said:

Lets hope that the officers involved have good body camera footage of what went down and everything is beyond reproach.

Hope they are getting good help and advice

And if they are not?

If they are not getting good support and advice then it is simply wrong.

I am waiting for more details but we can look forward to this being dissected by the usual suspects and excuses made to explain why this person committed armed robbery and was shot.

[Derek Smith]

spaximus said:

The Mad Monk said:

spaximus said:

Lets hope that the officers involved have good body camera footage of what went down and everything is beyond reproach.

Hope they are getting good help and advice

And if they are not?

If they are not getting good support and advice then it is simply wrong.

I am waiting for more details but we can look forward to this being dissected by the usual suspects and excuses made to explain why this person committed armed robbery and was shot.

And we can look forward to the views of those who have already made up their minds.

[MDMA .]

Odds were against him this time.

[Earthdweller]

bhstewie said:

Sure I read that there's a massive armed response unit base or something in Kensington.

Doesn't seem the smartest move.

there isn’t really

There’s a Diplomatic protection unit (DPG) base there where armed officers are based but they are unlikely to be involved unless caught up in a live incident

The Armed Response Units (ARV) are based elsewhere

As yet we don’t know if it was ARV response crews or a Specialist team from one of the Units such as the Flying Squad .. again based elsewhere

[Bigends]

Earthdweller said:

bhstewie said:

Sure I read that there's a massive armed response unit base or something in Kensington.

Doesn't seem the smartest move.

there isn’t really

There’s a Diplomatic protection unit (DPG) base there where armed officers are based but they are unlikely to be involved unless caught up in a live incident

The Armed Response Units (ARV) are based elsewhere

As yet we don’t know if it was ARV response crews or a Specialist team from one of the Units such as the Flying Squad .. again based elsewhere

Could well have been a pre-planned operation, unless the firearms officers just happened to be nearby

[Earthdweller]

Bigends said:

Could well have been a pre-planned operation, unless the firearms officers just happened to be nearby

There’ll certainly be a lot of ARV’s floating around central London, more so than usual I’d imagine with the proximity to Xmas

a very quick response to an incident is highly probable unless it was intel led and a pre planned op

I’m going for response to a 999 and an ARV approach to contact and challenge rather than a pre planned over the pavement takedown

But, I don’t know .. that’s just what it looks like to me

[focusxr5]

It says in the article that the van was stopped 15 minutes later and that they were trying to establish the man's identity to inform his family. That definitely seems more like a reactive ARV deployment. If it was proactive then they would know his identity in the information/intelligence stage of the operation.

[Biggy Stardust]

julian987R said:

We are missing a moron. Why does this warrant debate? A moron is dead. Lets move on.

Someone is dead. Let's wait for the rest of the facts.

[coppernorks]

Biggy Stardust said:

Someone is dead. Let's wait for the rest of the facts.

We have two basic scenarios:

Cops shot an innocent person
Cops shot a moron who was endangering lives

Which is more likely ?

[AJL308]

Well, I tend to agree with the "a criminal moron is dead, move along nothing to see here" sentiments.

In fact, is bank robbery still even a thing these days? Can't say I've ever heard of one in absolutely years! You've got to be pretty thick or desperate to try something like that in central London in 2021, to be honest.