John Cleese to complain about BBC interview
John Cleese to complain about BBC interview
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AudiMan9000

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801 posts

71 months

Thursday 16th December 2021
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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-5968...

I watched the whole interview. His behaviour seems hypocritical. He thinks the “woke” are unduly sensitive and underprepared for the big bad world, but he responds to a bit of gentle prodding from the interviewer (who rightly seeks to explore and challenge his views) by being passively hostile and ultimately storming out of the interview. He now apparently intends to lodge a ‘formal complaint’ with the BBC. I guess he’s okay with other people getting offended, as long as it’s not him.

agent006

12,058 posts

287 months

Thursday 16th December 2021
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Agree with him or not, one can't help thinking he could get his point across alot more effectively if he held onto his ego and temper a bit more tightly.

SpeckledJim

32,584 posts

276 months

Thursday 16th December 2021
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He comes across very poorly most of the time, IMO.

It’s been 30 years since he made anyone laugh.

CoolHands

22,253 posts

218 months

Thursday 16th December 2021
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He’s a total nob so who cares

Equus

16,980 posts

124 months

Thursday 16th December 2021
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I actually felt a bit sorry for him... he gave the impression of just being an angry and rather confused old man. I did wonder if there was some sort of dementia at work. frown

anonymoususer

7,912 posts

71 months

Thursday 16th December 2021
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Equus said:
I actually felt a bit sorry for him... he gave the impression of just being an angry and rather confused old man. I did wonder if there was some sort of dementia at work. frown
Yes that struck me too


Tyndall

1,009 posts

158 months

Thursday 16th December 2021
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Poor interview. I’m in this industry and it’s sadly become the amateur interviewer’s favourite tactic. They’ll have got him on on the premise of discussion (and, of course plugging) of his shows and then gone completely off piste to try and trigger a story. Younger artistes play along, more experienced ones are sick of it.

gt_12345

1,873 posts

58 months

Thursday 16th December 2021
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But the woke are sensitive, that's why they do/act/think as they do.

Equus

16,980 posts

124 months

Thursday 16th December 2021
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gt_12345 said:
But the woke are sensitive, that's why they do/act/think as they do.
You're confusing/conflating wokeism with cancel culture. They're two different things. You can have beliefs that align with one, without signing up to the other.

CoolHands

22,253 posts

218 months

Thursday 16th December 2021
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He complains about people not listening to each other then as soon as he doesn’t like her question he storms off. Prick. How funny do you think his shows would be? Awful

Sheets Tabuer

21,051 posts

238 months

Thursday 16th December 2021
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He started it.

eyebeebe

3,655 posts

256 months

Thursday 16th December 2021
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Sheets Tabuer said:
He started it.
One prawn Goebels?

rodericb

8,518 posts

149 months

Friday 17th December 2021
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It appears the interview was designed to skewer old curmudgeon Cleese. Cleese and the interviewer (and whoever prepared the questions) grew up in entirely different eras. Their lived experiences will be vastly different. I don't know why people seemingly delight in bringing people like Cleese into the limelight and crucifying them.

Jules Sunley

5,110 posts

116 months

Friday 17th December 2021
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Just watched that, I think JC came across very well and the presenter very badly. She was trying to lead him down a path and he has enough self-worth to not be a media we and chose to end the interview which again in my opinion was totally correct.

Someone like JC (and yes I am a fan) doesn't need to bow to the media if they are pissing him off. Good on him.

Ridgemont

8,738 posts

154 months

Friday 17th December 2021
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Jules Sunley said:
Just watched that, I think JC came across very well and the presenter very badly. She was trying to lead him down a path and he has enough self-worth to not be a media we and chose to end the interview which again in my opinion was totally correct.

Someone like JC (and yes I am a fan) doesn't need to bow to the media if they are pissing him off. Good on him.
Indeed. The interviewer was trying to be too smart by half and he wasn’t having anything of it. Kudos.

Ridgemont

8,738 posts

154 months

Friday 17th December 2021
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AudiMan9000 said:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-5968...

I watched the whole interview. His behaviour seems hypocritical. He thinks the “woke” are unduly sensitive and underprepared for the big bad world, but he responds to a bit of gentle prodding from the interviewer (who rightly seeks to explore and challenge his views) by being passively hostile and ultimately storming out of the interview. He now apparently intends to lodge a ‘formal complaint’ with the BBC. I guess he’s okay with other people getting offended, as long as it’s not him.
Not sure you understand how these things work:

Publicity is fundamentally about PR and puff pieces. If you want to interrogate that is agreed with the PA before hand. If you are going to launch into a highly sensitive area like cancel culture where Cleese has an enormous backlog you don’t spring it on him. Stupid interview with a lack of respect. Cleese rightly shut it down.

bad company

21,409 posts

289 months

Friday 17th December 2021
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CoolHands said:
He’s a total nob so who cares
I do.

Cleese has produced some fantastic comedy and remains very highly respected. Yes he’s past his best but still deserves respect.

ATG

23,011 posts

295 months

Friday 17th December 2021
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I thought Cleese came across rather well. He does actually know something about psychology and, whilst being perfectly empathetic, he's got a brain and approaches these things analytically. If you want a serious conversation, he'll engage. As he said, this stuff is complicated, and the interviewer was trivialising it while also hoping he would put his foot in it. He'd just made the fking point that people are splitting into echo-chambery camps that assume everyone else is wrong, and the interviewer then starts trying to ask him which camp he's in on various topics. That would piss anyone off. It's rather refreshing for an interviewee to point out non sequiturs and non-questions.

JagLover

46,028 posts

258 months

Friday 17th December 2021
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Ridgemont said:
Not sure you understand how these things work:

Publicity is fundamentally about PR and puff pieces. If you want to interrogate that is agreed with the PA before hand. If you are going to launch into a highly sensitive area like cancel culture where Cleese has an enormous backlog you don’t spring it on him. Stupid interview with a lack of respect. Cleese rightly shut it down.
Indeed

He isn't a politician, but likely doing the rounds promoting his latest project. If the interviewer wants to be Cathy Newman not surprising if he pulls the plug.

ZedLeg

12,278 posts

131 months

Friday 17th December 2021
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anonymoususer said:
Equus said:
I actually felt a bit sorry for him... he gave the impression of just being an angry and rather confused old man. I did wonder if there was some sort of dementia at work. frown
Yes that struck me too
In the absence of evidence, I'm going to go with him just being a . It's not like that's a recent development, there are stories of the other pythons falling out with him in the 70s.