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Fundoreen

Original Poster:

4,180 posts

106 months

Sunday 16th January 2022
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apparently some doris says they will be doing away with it in 2027

Rufus Stone

12,025 posts

79 months

Sunday 16th January 2022
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Licence.

Fundoreen

Original Poster:

4,180 posts

106 months

Sunday 16th January 2022
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All these years I have been paying for something I cant spell.
Good riddance to it then.

Sheets Tabuer

21,051 posts

238 months

Sunday 16th January 2022
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About time, it stopped being representative of people outside London years ago.

ATG

22,983 posts

295 months

Sunday 16th January 2022
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It won't happen. Saying "not that" without being able to propose an alternative ... is that it? Really? Is that what passes for a policy these days? Boris is fked. When he goes, Dorries goes. She's a lightweight and a philistine.

jmn

1,118 posts

303 months

Sunday 16th January 2022
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Isn't it now frozen at its current level for the next 2 years?

Countdown

47,274 posts

219 months

Sunday 16th January 2022
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Sheets Tabuer said:
About time, it stopped being representative of people outside London years ago.
I'm not sure what you mean by "representative". IMO it should be provide a wide range of content and an unbiased trustworthy source for news.

https://reutersinstitute.politics.ox.ac.uk/news/bb...

Fundoreen

Original Poster:

4,180 posts

106 months

Sunday 16th January 2022
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On reflection an easy cheap stunt to win some votes. One of those long distance boris promises he would never follow up on when the time came.

XCP

17,602 posts

251 months

Sunday 16th January 2022
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Cue another BBC bashing thread...

Venisonpie

4,496 posts

105 months

Sunday 16th January 2022
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It's populist gobste spouted by politicians who won't have any influence come 2027.

SmoothCriminal

5,785 posts

222 months

Sunday 16th January 2022
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Good.

About time the BBC stood on its own, problem is they know that not enough people will want to pay for the majority of the ste they produce.

If it went to a subscription service with their current output they're fked.

A freeze is a real time cut of a couple of billion apparently but I bet they won't stop their goons turning up unannounced and their threatening letters.

bitchstewie

64,204 posts

233 months

Sunday 16th January 2022
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Operation Red Meat at its finest hehe

Murph7355

40,875 posts

279 months

Sunday 16th January 2022
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The next Royal Charter is up for renewal in 2027.

I think Portillo had it right...if the BBC doesn't radically reform, it will be dead in the water well before then anyway (I believe this dawned on him whilst filming his train programme and he spoke with various people on the way).


TR4man

5,451 posts

197 months

Sunday 16th January 2022
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jmn said:
Isn't it now frozen at its current level for the next 2 years?
Yes, that’s correct.

biggles330d

2,365 posts

173 months

Sunday 16th January 2022
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I wake up to the BBC (2, 4 and 6 radio), have 6 music on all day, have much more respect for BBC news than ITV which comes across much more tabloid to me, look mostly to the BBC website as my first stop for news and appreciate that 'Brand BBC' carries much respect, authority and balance across the world so it's power in soft diplomacy is understandable. All for £160 odd quid a year.

I also pay just a little more than that for Netflix, which we pretty much only flick on for the odd series or film in the evening. Amazon Prime the same - only got that as it was bundled with a phone purchase and will go as soon as that free period is over. And Apple TV is basically pish aside from the odd well made series so thats going as soon as the free period is over (again, only got as bundled with something else).

BBC gets criticised from the left for being too right wing, and from the right for being too left wing. That says to me it's getting the balance just about ok. The programmes it makes are generally high quality and although its slipped a bit in recent years they thankfully don't churn out the lowest denominator cheaply made dross that often fills ITV and C5 in the case for ratings and advertising. I rate C4 fairly highly as well, probably for much the same reason as the BBC, it is in part not wholly dependent on being commercial and has a wider remit/purpose.

So, for the licence fee I think it represents really good value and far far better value than Sky, which I know people paying £90 / month (£1,080/yr) for.

Nadine Dorris can sod off if she thinks I buy her argument that neutering it a good thing. It's pretty clear what would happen if the Government let it go to become commercial, not much of it good in my view.

Murph7355

40,875 posts

279 months

Sunday 16th January 2022
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biggles330d said:
I wake up to the BBC (2, 4 and 6 radio), have 6 music on all day, have much more respect for BBC news than ITV which comes across much more tabloid to me, look mostly to the BBC website as my first stop for news and appreciate that 'Brand BBC' carries much respect, authority and balance across the world so it's power in soft diplomacy is understandable. All for £160 odd quid a year.

I also pay just a little more than that for Netflix, which we pretty much only flick on for the odd series or film in the evening. Amazon Prime the same - only got that as it was bundled with a phone purchase and will go as soon as that free period is over. And Apple TV is basically pish aside from the odd well made series so thats going as soon as the free period is over (again, only got as bundled with something else).

BBC gets criticised from the left for being too right wing, and from the right for being too left wing. That says to me it's getting the balance just about ok. The programmes it makes are generally high quality and although its slipped a bit in recent years they thankfully don't churn out the lowest denominator cheaply made dross that often fills ITV and C5 in the case for ratings and advertising. I rate C4 fairly highly as well, probably for much the same reason as the BBC, it is in part not wholly dependent on being commercial and has a wider remit/purpose.

So, for the licence fee I think it represents really good value and far far better value than Sky, which I know people paying £90 / month (£1,080/yr) for.

Nadine Dorris can sod off if she thinks I buy her argument that neutering it a good thing. It's pretty clear what would happen if the Government let it go to become commercial, not much of it good in my view.
What is the difference between the BBC, Netflix, AppleTV and Sky........?

Iminquarantine

2,168 posts

67 months

Sunday 16th January 2022
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It would be nice to see an end to the fee and have it paid out of general taxation. How many people are criminalised by this each year?

2 sMoKiN bArReLs

31,773 posts

258 months

Sunday 16th January 2022
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It will be a nightmare.

The BBC will have adverts, so the other channels will have more adverts. Suddenly we are like the USA, where TV is knocking on the door of unwatchable.

Does anybody watch Sky Indycar coverage? The Americans get less than 1/2 of the uninterrupted coverage that we get.

I'd happily pay my £3 a week or whatever it is.

It won't go subscription like Netflix.

SmoothCriminal

5,785 posts

222 months

Sunday 16th January 2022
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Murph7355 said:
biggles330d said:
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What is the difference between the BBC, Netflix, AppleTV and Sky........?
People are forced with the threat of court, unauthorised threatening letters, unauthorised visits to their property, fines and a criminal record to subsidise his enjoyment of the BBC even if you want no part of it.

paulrockliffe

16,370 posts

250 months

Sunday 16th January 2022
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biggles330d said:
I wake up to the BBC (2, 4 and 6 radio), have 6 music on all day, have much more respect for BBC news than ITV which comes across much more tabloid to me, look mostly to the BBC website as my first stop for news and appreciate that 'Brand BBC' carries much respect, authority and balance across the world so it's power in soft diplomacy is understandable. All for £160 odd quid a year.

I also pay just a little more than that for Netflix, which we pretty much only flick on for the odd series or film in the evening. Amazon Prime the same - only got that as it was bundled with a phone purchase and will go as soon as that free period is over. And Apple TV is basically pish aside from the odd well made series so thats going as soon as the free period is over (again, only got as bundled with something else).

BBC gets criticised from the left for being too right wing, and from the right for being too left wing. That says to me it's getting the balance just about ok. The programmes it makes are generally high quality and although its slipped a bit in recent years they thankfully don't churn out the lowest denominator cheaply made dross that often fills ITV and C5 in the case for ratings and advertising. I rate C4 fairly highly as well, probably for much the same reason as the BBC, it is in part not wholly dependent on being commercial and has a wider remit/purpose.

So, for the licence fee I think it represents really good value and far far better value than Sky, which I know people paying £90 / month (£1,080/yr) for.

Nadine Dorris can sod off if she thinks I buy her argument that neutering it a good thing. It's pretty clear what would happen if the Government let it go to become commercial, not much of it good in my view.
If what you say is true, she wouldn't be neutering it, because you and everyone else would continue to pay. No problem.