Nasty attack at Stamford Hill

[Pastor Of Muppets]

A very frightening incident, can't imagine the terror those two poor guys must have felt. Absolutely dreadful.

https://twitter.com/i/status/1486494146923802629

[s1962a]

This attack is disgusting

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I am actually lost for words, on a day we are supposed to remember the victims of the holocaust.
Utter lowlife filth.

[franki68]

Unfortunately that is the 4th video of such an incident I have seen in the last few months ,the level of AS in this and other countries is at a unbelievable level.

[DaveA8]

I often think there is a mass hypnosis effect because people who would scream "racism" at the top of their voices exhibit horrible levels of Antisemitism, in Ireland a few years ago, I got into with an otherwise seemingly rational person I've known for most of my life and at the merest mention of Israel/ Palestine and anything Jewish sent him into an irrational rant. When I tried to impart some objectivity he just found reasons to maintain his thoughts.
As a kid I'd spend summers in Dublin with my grandmother and often see them on a Friday going to Synagogue, I read a recently that most have left Ireland now but fear not the Muslim population has increased exponentially so the worlds right with Irish Liberals.

[Ivo Shandor]

Pastor Of Muppets said:

A very frightening incident, can't imagine the terror those two poor guys must have felt. Absolutely dreadful.

https://twitter.com/i/status/1486494146923802629

Well thank goodness the perp was caught quickly.

[Mastodon2]

anonymous said:

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If I had to take a wild guess, I'd imagine the perpetrator probably said something offensive as he passed them and they called him out on it.

Sadly, antisemitism has become so normalised and ingrained in our society that people of otherwise good character often buy into antisemitic tropes and conspiracies.

There was a thread here recently about some Jewish people on a bus being abused. A poster came into the thread saying he'd heard the attack was a retaliation as the Jews had been dancing outside of a Muslim business, which was not true, nor would it have been a valid reason to be subject to such vile actions were it true. But people repeat these kind of things when violence or abuse is directed towards Jews in ways that they wouldn't if many other cases.

[Ivo Shandor]

Mastodon2 said:

There was a thread here recently about some Jewish people on a bus being abused. A poster came into the thread saying he'd heard the attack was a retaliation as the Jews had been dancing outside of a Muslim business, which was not true, nor would it have been a valid reason to be subject to such vile actions were it true. But people repeat these kind of things when violence or abuse is directed towards Jews in ways that they wouldn't if many other cases.

It's a curious phenomena, the Beeb reported the attack saying anti-Muslim slurs were used by the bus, and insisted for a period this was accurate. It was rubbish, Ofcom is currently looking into it.

[bitchstewie]

The person arrested for it is 18 I believe.

Nasty at any age obviously but if he's charged and convicted you have to wonder how you get those sort of views at that age.

[DaveA8]

anonymous said:

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I wouldn't want you to take this the wrong way but it sounds like you're insinuating they had some hand in escalating the attack, they look round in my view as he was aggressive when he pushed by, looking around shouldn't be an excuse to attack.
Knowing the type of sh$t he is most likely, he was going to attack anyway.
What I find most pathetic is he adopts some kind of boxing stance, I always hate people who do that and yet based on the attack aren't proficient boxers, look at his lead front leg, honestly I'd have swept his front leg outwards and then battered him.
He's a bully and a coward

[98elise]

franki68 said:

Unfortunately that is the 4th video of such an incident I have seen in the last few months ,the level of AS in this and other countries is at a unbelievable level.

As an atheist I find all religious hatred strange.

I think theist beliefs are a load of cobblers, but not so much that it stirs any feelings hatred or violence in me. Why would it when it doesn't figure in my life at all?

[bitchstewie]

anonymous said:

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Oh it's a learned behaviour I just don't get it.

I mean I don't get any racism but anti-semitism is just plan weird let alone how you get into that crap at a young age.

[franki68]

Ivo Shandor said:

It's a curious phenomena, the Beeb reported the attack saying anti-Muslim slurs were used by the bus, and insisted for a period this was accurate. It was rubbish, Ofcom is currently looking into it.

They still insist ,they also claim the CST helped them translate the Hebrew which the CST deny and what is also odd is the supposed slur was allegedly in English so why would they need Hebrew translators ?
I also believe the actual reporter denies putting anything in about a slur and says it was added later .
The bbc ran a radio panel on anti semitism recently with no Jewish person on the panel .

Something is very rotten at the bbc at the moment ,

[DaveA8]

anonymous said:

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Fair enough, there's some truth in what you say but sadly it's like the guy in the pub who say "are you looking at my girlfriend" and I say "no" and he replies " Why ? what's wrong with my girlfriend"
He was attacking one way or the other, once he'd decided he could beat them

[Jinx]

anonymous said:

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Probably barged past to make sure no one else was behind the two gentlemen - so knew he was in the clear to attack (may of even been hoping to be able to attack from behind - if they normally walk the other way).

[oddman]

DaveA8 said:

What I find most pathetic is he adopts some kind of boxing stance, I always hate people who do that and yet based on the attack aren't proficient boxers, look at his lead front leg, honestly I'd have swept his front leg outwards and then battered him.
He's a bully and a coward

Thought that too. Only way the tt can land a punch is to pick on two guys with what looks like a combined age of 160

[Spidersleg]

At the risk of being ignorant and uneducated. Why is this antisemitism ? I had no sound on the video so didn't hear what was said between the people. Or is any attack on a Jewish person classed as antisemitic?

[poo at Paul's]

Spidersleg said:

At the risk of being ignorant and uneducated. Why is this antisemitism ? I had no sound on the video so didn't hear what was said between the people. Or is any attack on a Jewish person classed as antisemitic?

Presumably although you didn’t hear anything, the video shows what appears to be an unprovoked attack. But one that during which, some words were said.
So police will have acted on the report of the attack, part of which will be backed up by the video. But with no videos they will have asked the victims about what was said and when.

The perp looks like a meat headed grunt, who I hope gets locked up. Why should the rest of us have to share the streets with such a person?

[speedy_thrills]

Several news sources suggest it was religiously motivated.

[franki68]

Spidersleg said:

At the risk of being ignorant and uneducated. Why is this antisemitism ? I had no sound on the video so didn't hear what was said between the people. Or is any attack on a Jewish person classed as antisemitic?

Do you work for the bbc ?