Dead crabs and lobsters on Saltburn beach

[Ivo Shandor]

I caught this story today.

Dead seals and cetaceans have been found on the beach, "It comes four months since reports first emerged of crabs, lobsters and even octopuses being found dead on beaches stretching from Whitby to Hartlepool."
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10443201/...

Some people think dredging caused buried toxins to kill the wildlife. DEFRA says that testing rules this out.

https://www.gazettelive.co.uk/news/teesside-news/q...

Original story from October.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10128401/...

[Ransoman]

is this anywhere near a sewage treatment plant? I have seen a few reports of marine dead zones near treatment plants recently.

[Dynion Araf Uchaf]

it's almost certainly the dredging. DEFRA aren't going to implicate their own.
Seaspiracy on netflix will give you some background, but fundamentally, the fishing industry and dredging does more environmental damage than all the cars in all the world.

[JoshSm]

What's the weather been like? Not unusual for dead stuff to wash up after storms.

[RedAndy]

Isn't Saltburn beach about 5 miles downdrift of Europe's 4th largest chemical complex that incorporates the manufacture of some of the world's worst toxins, the recycling of some of the world's worst hazardous waste, and all set around an ageing and iffy nuclear power station?

I can't think of a single reason why there'd be dead stuff washing up on shore.

[Countdown]

RedAndy said:

Isn't Saltburn beach about 5 miles downdrift of Europe's 4th largest chemical complex that incorporates the manufacture of some of the world's worst toxins, the recycling of some of the world's worst hazardous waste, and all set around an ageing and iffy nuclear power station?

I can't think of a single reason why there'd be dead stuff washing up on shore.

[RedAndy]

Countdown said:

That would be awesome!

[super7]

This is also implicated in the large number of Dogs in Yorkshire and the North West who have had a severe form of Gastroenteritis..... Dogs with it can be traced back to beaches along this area. This has subsequently been spread amongst even more dogs, implying it's Viral, rather than some chemical??

https://www.countryliving.com/uk/wildlife/pets/a38...

Considering we live in Oxfordshire and a friend of ours dogs have gone down with this after visiting the Sheffield area, I.e nowhere near a beach, I'm a bit dubious as to the dredging link.

[eharding]

RedAndy said:

Countdown said:

That would be awesome!

I'd give it about 30 minutes before Godzilla was found deep-fried in batter at a Hartlepool chippy, alongside the recently introduced range of Lobster kebabs, Crab pizza and spicy Octopus twizzlers.

[Riley Blue]

Hasn't there just been a couple of storms? Thousands of dead starfish were washed up in Pembrokeshire after stormy weather last month: https://www.independent.co.uk/climate-change/news/...

[vaud]

eharding said:

I'd give it about 30 minutes before Godzilla was found deep-fried in batter at a Hartlepool chippy, alongside the recently introduced range of Lobster kebabs, Crab pizza and spicy Octopus twizzlers.

Godzilla parmigiana.

[Scrump]

Are we sure that they were dead when washed up near Hartlepool?
They may have been executed as spies.

[Countdown]

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/claws-for-conce...

Giant crabs showing up

[eharding]

vaud said:

eharding said:

I'd give it about 30 minutes before Godzilla was found deep-fried in batter at a Hartlepool chippy, alongside the recently introduced range of Lobster kebabs, Crab pizza and spicy Octopus twizzlers.

Godzilla parmigiana.

Gojira nuggets, in a 50 litre bargain bucket. Made for sharing.

[Ivo Shandor]

Riley Blue said:

Hasn't there just been a couple of storms? Thousands of dead starfish were washed up in Pembrokeshire after stormy weather last month: https://www.independent.co.uk/climate-change/news/...

Hope they didn't look like this.

[Byker28i]

Riley Blue said:

Hasn't there just been a couple of storms? Thousands of dead starfish were washed up in Pembrokeshire after stormy weather last month: https://www.independent.co.uk/climate-change/news/...

Not sure how local photographer says they haven't seen it before, we get it all the time. A lot of Barrell Jelly fish, but especially moon jelly fish. A couple of years ago there were so many washed up they covered about a 10m strip the entire length of the beaches, so you couldn't walk through to the sea.

[bucksmanuk]

Stuff like this happens
30+ years ago a huge amount of shrimps/prawns and such like were washed up on Southport beach in a storm. The line was nearly a mile long, about 20 feet wide and a foot high in the middle. After 3 days, the stench was unbearable, so they were buried in the beach.

[Equus]

Ivo Shandor said:

Dead seals and cetaceans have been found on the beach..

These are cetaceans:


This is a crustacean:


They look might look similar, admittedly, but experts can tell them apart because it's more difficult to train a crustacean to balance a ball on its nose. This won't help you distinguish them from the seals, though.

[Otispunkmeyer]

RedAndy said:

Isn't Saltburn beach about 5 miles downdrift of Europe's 4th largest chemical complex that incorporates the manufacture of some of the world's worst toxins, the recycling of some of the world's worst hazardous waste, and all set around an ageing and iffy nuclear power station?

I can't think of a single reason why there'd be dead stuff washing up on shore.

All along there really. Got the nuke plant near Seaton and then lining either side of the Tees you have the refinery at Seal Sands (Ineos, BOC, Conoco Philips etc) and on the other side, the Steel works (or what's left of it, but I am sure over the years all kinds of crud will have leached into the sea from there). There is more of the Steelworks further back and then you have ICI Wilton behind that, so not sure anything from there would end up in the sea.

[take-good-care-of-the-forest-dewey]

Countdown said:

You joke but there has been an attack by giant crabs...


https://www.gazettelive.co.uk/news/teesside-news/g...