Bellfield confesses to Russell murders
Bellfield confesses to Russell murders
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reddiesel

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3,022 posts

70 months

Sunday 6th February 2022
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https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/17559472/levi-bellfi...


I suppose this should divert attention away from Boris , at least in the short term .

hepy

1,359 posts

163 months

Sunday 6th February 2022
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https://www.kentonline.co.uk/canterbury/news/levi-...

To save anyone giving the Sun more traffic.

This is an old story, and has been mentioned on one of those 'rough justice' type murder programmes. Bellfield is an annention seeker, could have just made the whole thing up?

foxbody-87

2,675 posts

189 months

Sunday 6th February 2022
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Levi Bellfield has confessed to the murders of Lin and Megan Russell in 1996, in a letter sent to the solicitor of Michael Stone. Stone was convicted of the killings but has maintained his innocence, and his supporters have put Bellfield in the frame since his conviction for several murders of women.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10481197/...

Could this be the truth or Bellfield stuck in prison bored playing mind games?

anonymous-user

77 months

Sunday 6th February 2022
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This is awful for the family as it re-opens the horror story for them. It shouldn't be in the public domain.

reddiesel

Original Poster:

3,022 posts

70 months

Sunday 6th February 2022
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hepy said:
https://www.kentonline.co.uk/canterbury/news/levi-...

To save anyone giving the Sun more traffic.

This is an old story, and has been mentioned on one of those 'rough justice' type murder programmes. Bellfield is an annention seeker, could have just made the whole thing up?
Its a bit different chap as now a Formal Confession has been made . You understand that difference ?

Earthdweller

17,851 posts

149 months

Sunday 6th February 2022
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hepy said:
https://www.kentonline.co.uk/canterbury/news/levi-...

To save anyone giving the Sun more traffic.

This is an old story, and has been mentioned on one of those 'rough justice' type murder programmes. Bellfield is an annention seeker, could have just made the whole thing up?
Who knows ?

Bellfield is a serial fantasist, Stone has been convicted twice and then again though the appeals process of the murders so it’s fair to say Stone’s conviction and the evidence against him has been subject to intense scrutiny by the police, courts and senior judiciary

Bellfields confession will have to be looked at but it’s the words of a serial lier, fantasist and attention seeker

As above who knows, but at the moment I don’t think you can call it an embarrassment for the Police




BikeBikeBIke

13,487 posts

138 months

Sunday 6th February 2022
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It wasn't Bellfield:

[i] Bellfield's partner at the time, Johanna Collings, has insisted that she was with him on the day of the murders as it was her birthday. She had told investigators this, and it was an alibi that detectives found credible. Collings had helped detectives convict Bellfield for his previous murders, such as in the Milly Dowler murder, giving evidence that he knew the area where her body was left well. In regards to the Russell murders, however, she commented in a BBC documentary in 2017: On 5 February 2022, Bellfield submitted a 4 page confession, stating that he had committed the murders.

My daughter was born in '96 and that was the day of my birthday. He never left my side, all day and all night, so there's absolutely no way he could have got from Twickenham, where I lived, or Windsor, where I kept my horses, to Kent, done what they say he did, and got back without me not knowing he was there. I can hand on my heart, I hate to say it, but I can say hand on my heart he didn't do[/i]

Earthdweller

17,851 posts

149 months

Sunday 6th February 2022
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reddiesel said:
Its a bit different chap as now a Formal Confession has been made . You understand that difference ?
No it isnt

Just because he submitted a statement through a solicitor doesn’t mean it’s true

And anything he wrote would have to be examined and proved/disproved and pass the evidential threshold test

One would assume that the evidence against Stone must be pretty overwhelming due to the serious amount of scrutiny it has received


foxbody-87

2,675 posts

189 months

Sunday 6th February 2022
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Which begs the question, has he done this knowing it will cause trouble and safe in the knowledge that further investigation will reveal nothing? It depends if any details of the crime in his confession letter weren’t known to the public. IIRC Stone’s conviction was shaky at best, the key piece of evidence being a supposed confession to an inmate.

LaurasOtherHalf

21,429 posts

219 months

Sunday 6th February 2022
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Who knows what games Bellfield is playing. Thread title is useless by the way.

saaby93

32,038 posts

201 months

Sunday 6th February 2022
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Another miscarriage about to unravel
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-kent-6027801...

How do you prove your innocence thread?

Scrump

23,729 posts

181 months

Sunday 6th February 2022
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LaurasOtherHalf said:
Thread title is useless by the way.
Two threads on the same subject have now been merged and the title changed.

reddiesel

Original Poster:

3,022 posts

70 months

Sunday 6th February 2022
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Earthdweller said:
No it isnt

Just because he submitted a statement through a solicitor doesn’t mean it’s true

And anything he wrote would have to be examined and proved/disproved and pass the evidential threshold test

One would assume that the evidence against Stone must be pretty overwhelming due to the serious amount of scrutiny it has received
Of course its different chap , its a legal document for a start where a TV Program isnt . I havent disputed anything else you have said , you were the one that mentioned some " rough justice type program " not I . What I am saying is this Legal Document is a Legal step onwards and therefore bears no comparison to any TV Program . I am sure everyone accepts that whatever their viewpoint .

Derek Smith

48,808 posts

271 months

Sunday 6th February 2022
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Those who've been in prison for some time, where day after day is the same, with the biggest difficulty being to remember what day it is, will often confess to crimes just for a day or two to be different. Most are of much lower offending than this of course, but TICs need careful consideration to ensure that they've not been usurped by another prisoner who wanted to chat to someone new.

His girlfriend put him away for one offence but lied to protect him from another? It's possible. Odder things have happened.

Evidence of a miscarriage of justice? Not yet. It's just some bloke mouthing off.

Gareth79

8,724 posts

269 months

Sunday 6th February 2022
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There's a few articles about confessions over the years, this one from last year looks similar, except that in that one he claims he had the car crushed, this one he says it was cleaned, although maybe it was cleaned and then crushed?


https://www.kentonline.co.uk/deal/news/bellfield-t...

I guess the "details only he could know" would be interesting, although I imagine it would have to be quite detailed, and not ever mentioned in court, for example. If Stone's solicitor believed he could verify it as being information that Bellfield could not have known, then IMO it was public enough to not be!


Fundoreen

4,180 posts

106 months

Sunday 6th February 2022
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I forget but there must have been evidence on Stone.
The fact the two of them have been in prison together means they could exchange hidden facts only the police would have.

Robotron70

1,965 posts

66 months

Sunday 6th February 2022
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Would it be possible for the Police to frame Stone in order to secure a conviction and take the pressure off them to solve the case?

Wasn’t Stone a wrongun anyway?

Genuine question, not trolling.

saaby93

32,038 posts

201 months

Sunday 6th February 2022
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Robotron70 said:
Would it be possible for the Police to frame Stone in order to secure a conviction and take the pressure off them to solve the case?

Wasn’t Stone a wrongun anyway?
It says in wiki that he doesnt think favourably of police

reddiesel

Original Poster:

3,022 posts

70 months

Sunday 6th February 2022
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Robotron70 said:
Would it be possible for the Police to frame Stone in order to secure a conviction and take the pressure off them to solve the case?

Wasn’t Stone a wrongun anyway?

Genuine question, not trolling.
Ive absolutely no axe to grind on behalf of Stone but what an incredible thing to say . " Wrong un " does that automatically make a habitual housebreaker for argument sake a murderer ? Again no axe to grind against the Police but isnt the scenario you describe exactly what happened to Colin Stagg ?

https://news.sky.com/story/levi-bellfield-milly-do...

Sky picking it up now so time will tell I guess .

Earthdweller

17,851 posts

149 months

Sunday 6th February 2022
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reddiesel said:
Earthdweller said:
No it isnt

Just because he submitted a statement through a solicitor doesn’t mean it’s true

And anything he wrote would have to be examined and proved/disproved and pass the evidential threshold test

One would assume that the evidence against Stone must be pretty overwhelming due to the serious amount of scrutiny it has received
Of course its different chap , its a legal document for a start where a TV Program isnt . I havent disputed anything else you have said , you were the one that mentioned some " rough justice type program " not I . What I am saying is this Legal Document is a Legal step onwards and therefore bears no comparison to any TV Program . I am sure everyone accepts that whatever their viewpoint .
My bold

No i didn’t

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