Covid vaxxing a young child...will you?
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So it's an inevitability that England will soon be offering Covid jabs to 5 year olds and upwards. My lad is 6 and Covid seems to be constantly having a field day in his school.
My question is in no way loaded. I'm mid/late 40s, triple jabbed, and currently isolating having caught Covid for the first time on a ski trip I've just got back from. My own vax experience was this...didn't even notice the first (AZ), felt slightly off with the second (AZ), and properly, horrendously ill with the booster (Moderna), a few days in bed with a raging fever and then a couple of weeks of some really quite scary heart palpitations and coughing fits which have now passed, and of course, may, or may not, be linked to the booster...although the timing and known side effects seems to match. Actual Covid seems mild by comparison...the main symptom for me has been waves of sudden crushing tiredness and headaches. I'm a fairly fit non-smoker and regular exerciser/cyclist (yes I know that makes me no more or less likely to catch it, however my chance of survival will be better than a 75 year old 20 stone chain smoker)
I have no doubts that the jab has clearly made an enormous difference to the severity of the disease, and I absolutely do not subscribe to any hardline "anti-vax" b
ks. To me, in adults, the science and justification is very clear. However for youunger children, I am not so sure.
What are other parent's views on this?
My question is in no way loaded. I'm mid/late 40s, triple jabbed, and currently isolating having caught Covid for the first time on a ski trip I've just got back from. My own vax experience was this...didn't even notice the first (AZ), felt slightly off with the second (AZ), and properly, horrendously ill with the booster (Moderna), a few days in bed with a raging fever and then a couple of weeks of some really quite scary heart palpitations and coughing fits which have now passed, and of course, may, or may not, be linked to the booster...although the timing and known side effects seems to match. Actual Covid seems mild by comparison...the main symptom for me has been waves of sudden crushing tiredness and headaches. I'm a fairly fit non-smoker and regular exerciser/cyclist (yes I know that makes me no more or less likely to catch it, however my chance of survival will be better than a 75 year old 20 stone chain smoker)
I have no doubts that the jab has clearly made an enormous difference to the severity of the disease, and I absolutely do not subscribe to any hardline "anti-vax" b
ks. To me, in adults, the science and justification is very clear. However for youunger children, I am not so sure. What are other parent's views on this?
Hard-Drive said:
To me, in adults, the science and justification is very clear. However for youunger children, I am not so sure.
What are other parent's views on this?
The experts have looked at the data. They have looked at other countries who are vaccinating children. They have concluded that the risks are low and the benefits overall are worthwhile.What are other parent's views on this?
Why are you not sure? Why are you asking "other parents" - are they any better qualified than the experts, or non-parents?
ETA: 100% you will not get any useful insight from this thread. It will be the usual trend of "listen to the experts" and "the experts are no such thing". I predict less than two pages and it will have descended to the level of all the other covid threads.
I wouldn't want to be at the front of the queue.
We've already seen AZ pulled (for good reason) in the under 30s. It went from "it's all fine" to "oooooh, fk" in the space of a week. Why? Because it wasn't tested enough.
The risk of covid to an under 18 is negligible, so I'd be in no hurry. Once a few million kids had been vaccinated, and done the testing, I'd put mine forward.
We've already seen AZ pulled (for good reason) in the under 30s. It went from "it's all fine" to "oooooh, f
k" in the space of a week. Why? Because it wasn't tested enough.The risk of covid to an under 18 is negligible, so I'd be in no hurry. Once a few million kids had been vaccinated, and done the testing, I'd put mine forward.
deckster said:
Hard-Drive said:
To me, in adults, the science and justification is very clear. However for youunger children, I am not so sure.
What are other parent's views on this?
The experts have looked at the data. They have looked at other countries who are vaccinating children. They have concluded that the risks are low and the benefits overall are worthwhile.What are other parent's views on this?
Why are you not sure? Why are you asking "other parents" - are they any better qualified than the experts, or non-parents?
I just wanted to get that in before someone else did.I'd look at what the scientists recommend rather than Facebook Karens who previously claimed to be experts in opening chakras with amethyst crystals.
nope, not touching either of my children.
And yes this is coming from a 37yr old who hasnt been vaxxed at all and never intended to, doesn't wear a mask anywhere, does not test and travels all over the country for work/leisure.
Had Covid over xmas im assuming as felt tired one afternoon and the wife was positive, thats it, treated Covid like it does not exist the last 2yrs.
Dont talk about it infront of the children and make sure it does not effect them in anyway(no sanitiser, masks and can go wherever they like)
And yes this is coming from a 37yr old who hasnt been vaxxed at all and never intended to, doesn't wear a mask anywhere, does not test and travels all over the country for work/leisure.
Had Covid over xmas im assuming as felt tired one afternoon and the wife was positive, thats it, treated Covid like it does not exist the last 2yrs.
Dont talk about it infront of the children and make sure it does not effect them in anyway(no sanitiser, masks and can go wherever they like)
turbotoaster said:
nope, not touching either of my children.
And yes this is coming from a 37yr old who hasnt been vaxxed at all and never intended to, doesn't wear a mask anywhere, does not test and travels all over the country for work/leisure.
Had Covid over xmas im assuming as felt tired one afternoon and the wife was positive, thats it, treated Covid like it does not exist the last 2yrs.
Dont talk about it infront of the children and make sure it does not effect them in anyway(no sanitiser, masks and can go wherever they like)
What happens when your children who by your post are ignorant of Covid meet and play with their friends? In my opinion keeping children in the dark is not a great approach. Age relevant discussion with them would be preferable surely. And yes this is coming from a 37yr old who hasnt been vaxxed at all and never intended to, doesn't wear a mask anywhere, does not test and travels all over the country for work/leisure.
Had Covid over xmas im assuming as felt tired one afternoon and the wife was positive, thats it, treated Covid like it does not exist the last 2yrs.
Dont talk about it infront of the children and make sure it does not effect them in anyway(no sanitiser, masks and can go wherever they like)
rxe said:
We've already seen AZ pulled (for good reason) in the under 30s. It went from "it's all fine" to "oooooh, fk" in the space of a week. Why? Because it wasn't tested enough.
Interesting article https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-60259302 on the decisions that were made around the AZ vaccine and the impact they might have had on global Covid cases.k" in the space of a week. Why? Because it wasn't tested enough.G'day!
Here in Western Australia the MRNA vaccines are available to anyone over 5 - The child's version is "watered down" of course.
The vast majority of our 7yr old daughter's classmates have had their first dose. As far as I know there have been no immediate adverse reactions.
We're sitting on the fence for now.
Here in Western Australia the MRNA vaccines are available to anyone over 5 - The child's version is "watered down" of course.
The vast majority of our 7yr old daughter's classmates have had their first dose. As far as I know there have been no immediate adverse reactions.
We're sitting on the fence for now.
If the vaccine lasted a lifetime or at least a few years then I'd be saying it was worth doing, just like the other vaccines kids have. But as this isn't the case with Covid jabs, I'm inclined to not bother with it for my son given the risk of serious illness in young people from catching Covid is so low.
If Covid (the bad strains) affected kids as much as it does adults then absolutely I'd be getting it done as nothing to lose.
If Covid (the bad strains) affected kids as much as it does adults then absolutely I'd be getting it done as nothing to lose.
Hard-Drive my boy only turns 4 this year so I'm hopefully a little way off discussing this. We don't necessarily always flu jab kids so why the neccesity for a covid jab? There has been a few children who have suffered when catching covid and my wife seems to know more kids that have suffered then adults (works in a school) but is the vaccine worth the risk? On my side... no not yet. The majority of kids will have had covid and shook it off like flu, surely them building an immune response is better in most circumstances? If a child is vulnerable then yes by all means let them have it.
However when my lad gets to 5 I am sure the mother in law and various other family members will try to encourage us to get him to get jabbed. I think alot of faith has been lost within society of the media, the pharmaceutical companies and the government so of course people will question the necessity.
However when my lad gets to 5 I am sure the mother in law and various other family members will try to encourage us to get him to get jabbed. I think alot of faith has been lost within society of the media, the pharmaceutical companies and the government so of course people will question the necessity.
I might be lagging behind current news of vaccine efficiacy and covid infection in children, but was under the distinct impression that kids really don't get laid low by Covid.
We aren't going to eradicate the virus.
Which begs the question, why vaccinate kids if it's not especially harmful to them?
We aren't going to eradicate the virus.
Which begs the question, why vaccinate kids if it's not especially harmful to them?
Nickgnome said:
What happens when your children who by your post are ignorant of Covid meet and play with their friends? In my opinion keeping children in the dark is not a great approach. Age relevant discussion with them would be preferable surely.
They play with their friends just like they would if this was 2019, why should it be any different, they hug each other, jump around on each other....basically be children and have fun, I dont care if they pass Covid onto me, for me their happiness is more important.When they are teenagers im sure i will tell them stories about it or more likely they will learn about it high school
Nope. They have both had covid caught in school and fine after a couple of days. We both caught it from them both vaccinated and fine after a couple of days. I don’t see why we would vaccinate either child. We kept grandparents wellclear of us all while we were recovering from it so no risk to anyone other than our household.
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