Iceland offers discount to over 60s
Discussion
Iceland to launch over-60s discount as cost of living soars
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-61512945
Whilst I applaud any company helping out people in need and offering a discount then surely this must be illegal. Your not allowed to discriminate on age and as far as I can see there discriminating against anybody under the age of 60.
Mind you OAP get free bus passes and senior citizen discounts so it must be allowed.
Either way I’m not knocking it and well done Iceland let’s hope others follow.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-61512945
Whilst I applaud any company helping out people in need and offering a discount then surely this must be illegal. Your not allowed to discriminate on age and as far as I can see there discriminating against anybody under the age of 60.
Mind you OAP get free bus passes and senior citizen discounts so it must be allowed.
Either way I’m not knocking it and well done Iceland let’s hope others follow.
B and Q offer a discount to oldies on a Wednesday. Do you think that’s illegal as well? What about the various discounts things like the National Trust do for older people? Are they illegal?
It’s a shop offering a discount to a certain group. They can sell what they want to whoever they want at a price they set. It’s fine.
It’s a shop offering a discount to a certain group. They can sell what they want to whoever they want at a price they set. It’s fine.
Dolf Stoppard said:
B and Q offer a discount to oldies on a Wednesday. Do you think that’s illegal as well? What about the various discounts things like the National Trust do for older people? Are they illegal?
It’s a shop offering a discount to a certain group. They can sell what they want to whoever they want at a price they set. It’s fine.
Well they can't, not necessarily. For example insurers aren't allowed to discriminate on the grounds of gender. The shop isn't given free rein to discrimination however they want. You can only discriminate on the grounds of age for specific reasons. It’s a shop offering a discount to a certain group. They can sell what they want to whoever they want at a price they set. It’s fine.
Edited by Mave on Thursday 19th May 18:54
Mave said:
Dolf Stoppard said:
B and Q offer a discount to oldies on a Wednesday. Do you think that’s illegal as well? What about the various discounts things like the National Trust do for older people? Are they illegal?
It’s a shop offering a discount to a certain group. They can sell what they want to whoever they want at a price they set. It’s fine.
Well they can't, not necessarily. For example insurers aren't allowed to discriminate on the grounds of gender. It’s a shop offering a discount to a certain group. They can sell what they want to whoever they want at a price they set. It’s fine.
The gender thing shouldn't have changed IMO. If the data shows men present a bigger risk (lcost of accidents IIRC) then women should pay less.
98elise said:
Mave said:
Dolf Stoppard said:
B and Q offer a discount to oldies on a Wednesday. Do you think that’s illegal as well? What about the various discounts things like the National Trust do for older people? Are they illegal?
It’s a shop offering a discount to a certain group. They can sell what they want to whoever they want at a price they set. It’s fine.
Well they can't, not necessarily. For example insurers aren't allowed to discriminate on the grounds of gender. It’s a shop offering a discount to a certain group. They can sell what they want to whoever they want at a price they set. It’s fine.
The gender thing shouldn't have changed IMO. If the data shows men present a bigger risk (lcost of accidents IIRC) then women should pay less.
Please don’t let this descend in to a pissing contest. I’m glad Iceland are offering the discount.
It’s just that my initial reaction on reading the article was well there are single mothers struggling. There are lots of people struggling. Why should you be entitled to a discount just based on age when you can’t discriminate based on age.
Then as I was writing the post I started thinking about bus and rail discounts. TV licence etc.
How do they get away with doing this legally.
Either way I’m glad they are. My dads in his 70s and shops at Iceland so I for one will be telling him about it. Good on them as far as I am concerned
It’s just that my initial reaction on reading the article was well there are single mothers struggling. There are lots of people struggling. Why should you be entitled to a discount just based on age when you can’t discriminate based on age.
Then as I was writing the post I started thinking about bus and rail discounts. TV licence etc.
How do they get away with doing this legally.
Either way I’m glad they are. My dads in his 70s and shops at Iceland so I for one will be telling him about it. Good on them as far as I am concerned
Mave said:
Well they can't, not necessarily. For example insurers aren't allowed to discriminate on the grounds of gender. The shop isn't given free rein to discrimination however they want. You can only discriminate on the grounds of age for specific reasons.
A shop can sell the same item at a different price for every customer if they want.Edited by Mave on Thursday 19th May 18:54
Dr Jekyll said:
Mave said:
Well they can't, not necessarily. For example insurers aren't allowed to discriminate on the grounds of gender. The shop isn't given free rein to discrimination however they want. You can only discriminate on the grounds of age for specific reasons.
A shop can sell the same item at a different price for every customer if they want.Edited by Mave on Thursday 19th May 18:54
ZedLeg said:
It’s an offer to try and drum up some business and press based on appealing to an easily identifiable demographic.
Are young person rail cards illegal too?
The answer in both cases is no.
From the citizens advice beureau website -Are young person rail cards illegal too?
The answer in both cases is no.
The law which says you mustn’t be discriminated against is called the Equality Act 2010. Discrimination which is against the Equality Act is unlawful. This means you can take action in the civil courts.
Direct discrimination is when a trader or service provider treats you differently and worse than someone else because of who you are.
You can challenge direct discrimination if it's because of your:
age - but only if you’re 18 or over
disability
gender reassignment
pregnancy and maternity
race
religion or belief
sex
sexual orientation.
Mave said:
Really? Are they allowed to charge different prices in the basis of gender, sexual orientation, religion?
Age? Yes.https://www.equalityhumanrights.com/en/advice-and-...
i.e.
A difference in treatment may be lawful if:
- belonging to a particular age group is essential for a job: this is called an occupational requirement. For example, a film company making a film of Oliver Twist may lawfully hire a young boy to play Oliver
- an organisation is taking positive action to encourage or develop people in an age group that is under-represented or disadvantaged in a role or activity
- your employer has set a compulsory retirement age that it can clearly justify in respect of your role: this is known as objective justification
- the circumstances fall under one of the exceptions to the Equality Act that allow organisations to provide different treatment in employment or services based on age
- a service provider is making age-related concessions and benefits. For example, a cinema can offer over 60s cheap tickets and special screenings or a GP can offer flu jabs to over 65s
- the financial services sector (e.g. banks, building societies and insurance companies) is using age limits when deciding what services to offer. For example, a high street bank offers a ‘silver saver’ account for customers over 60, with higher interest rates.
- However, if they are using age to assess risk, for example only providing car insurance up to age 75 or charging more for insurance as a customer gets older, they would need up to date evidence from a reliable source, which shows that people over a certain age are a greater risk when driving
vaud said:
Mave said:
Really? Are they allowed to charge different prices in the basis of gender, sexual orientation, religion?
Age? Yes.https://www.equalityhumanrights.com/en/advice-and-...
i.e.
A difference in treatment may be lawful if:
- belonging to a particular age group is essential for a job: this is called an occupational requirement. For example, a film company making a film of Oliver Twist may lawfully hire a young boy to play Oliver
- an organisation is taking positive action to encourage or develop people in an age group that is under-represented or disadvantaged in a role or activity
- your employer has set a compulsory retirement age that it can clearly justify in respect of your role: this is known as objective justification
- the circumstances fall under one of the exceptions to the Equality Act that allow organisations to provide different treatment in employment or services based on age
- a service provider is making age-related concessions and benefits. For example, a cinema can offer over 60s cheap tickets and special screenings or a GP can offer flu jabs to over 65s
- the financial services sector (e.g. banks, building societies and insurance companies) is using age limits when deciding what services to offer. For example, a high street bank offers a ‘silver saver’ account for customers over 60, with higher interest rates.
- However, if they are using age to assess risk, for example only providing car insurance up to age 75 or charging more for insurance as a customer gets older, they would need up to date evidence from a reliable source, which shows that people over a certain age are a greater risk when driving
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