Oz general election - who's had their sausage?
Discussion
This just flashed up on my phone courtesy of the BBC what it means for the future I’m not clued up on Oz politics but it seems Covid and the cost of living have done for the outgoing Gov
A warning to Boris and the others I’d imagine
BREAKING
Labor to form Australia's new government: Local networks
Australian PM Scott Morrison has been removed from power as the country has elected its first Labor government in almost a decade, local networks have projected.
This means Labor leader Anthony Albanese will be the country's next prime minister.
But it still not clear whether it will be a majority leadership or in coalition with independents and minor parties.
A warning to Boris and the others I’d imagine
BREAKING
Labor to form Australia's new government: Local networks
Australian PM Scott Morrison has been removed from power as the country has elected its first Labor government in almost a decade, local networks have projected.
This means Labor leader Anthony Albanese will be the country's next prime minister.
But it still not clear whether it will be a majority leadership or in coalition with independents and minor parties.
For those not familiar with Australian politics, it's important to realise what a cluster f
k it is.
The just defeated PM is hugely unpopular as an individual due to, well everything, but ultimately being a lying, corrupt, 'not my fault', go on holiday in an emergency, deflecting, mysoginistic, jobs and money for the boys grade A, 100%.
The Liberals lost not so much due to being a terrible party but because it's leader was so dislikeable.
k it is.The just defeated PM is hugely unpopular as an individual due to, well everything, but ultimately being a lying, corrupt, 'not my fault', go on holiday in an emergency, deflecting, mysoginistic, jobs and money for the boys grade A, 100%
.The Liberals lost not so much due to being a terrible party but because it's leader was so dislikeable.
Pommy said:
For those not familiar with Australian politics, it's important to realise what a cluster fk it is.
The just defeated PM is hugely unpopular as an individual due to, well everything, but ultimately being a lying, corrupt, 'not my fault', go on holiday in an emergency, deflecting, mysoginistic, jobs and money for the boys grade A, 100%.
The Liberals lost not so much due to being a terrible party but because it's leader was so dislikeable.
There’s a lesson there…k it is.The just defeated PM is hugely unpopular as an individual due to, well everything, but ultimately being a lying, corrupt, 'not my fault', go on holiday in an emergency, deflecting, mysoginistic, jobs and money for the boys grade A, 100%
.The Liberals lost not so much due to being a terrible party but because it's leader was so dislikeable.
Good result with the greedy lying scumbag incumbents getting a massive kick up the arse and the not bloody proactive enough by half Labor party getting a small kick in the behind.
Big gains for the not quite as fked in the head conservatives ("Teal" independents) and greens.
After more than a decade of regressive bullst let's cross every fking appendage that a Labor/Teal/Green coalition can get something useful done.
Big gains for the not quite as f
ked in the head conservatives ("Teal" independents) and greens.After more than a decade of regressive bulls
t let's cross every fking appendage that a Labor/Teal/Green coalition can get something useful done.Wayoftheflower said:
Good result with the greedy lying scumbag incumbents getting a massive kick up the arse and the not bloody proactive enough by half Labor party getting a small kick in the behind.
Big gains for the not quite as fked in the head conservatives ("Teal" independents) and greens.
After more than a decade of regressive bullst let's cross every fking appendage that a Labor/Teal/Green coalition can get something useful done.
The ICAC should be fun. I imagine a few arrests are going to be forthcoming.Big gains for the not quite as f
ked in the head conservatives ("Teal" independents) and greens.After more than a decade of regressive bulls
t let's cross every fking appendage that a Labor/Teal/Green coalition can get something useful done.The media have been shocking over the last month with so much bias towards the Liberals it will be interesting to see how the media miraculously find positivity in Labor when they realise most of their readers don't agree with them.
Pommy said:
The Liberals lost not so much due to being a terrible party but because it's leader was so dislikeable.
The rot went down further though, the Treasurer managed to orchestrate a >10% swing (over a 6% national average) against himself and is likely to lose to in a Teal independent.Pommy said:
The ICAC should be fun. I imagine a few arrests are going to be forthcoming.
The media have been shocking over the last month with so much bias towards the Liberals it will be interesting to see how the media miraculously find positivity in Labor when they realise most of their readers don't agree with them.
Who is the Rortfinder General going to be? The media have been shocking over the last month with so much bias towards the Liberals it will be interesting to see how the media miraculously find positivity in Labor when they realise most of their readers don't agree with them.
ScoMo has finally accepted responsibility for something and resigned as leader of the Libs, saying the election loss is his fault.
But as already mentioned, Australian politics is utterly devoid of new thinking and severely lacking any political heavyweight. It’s so small-minded and full of bickering.
Australian politics continues to show Donald Horne’s perception when in 1964 he said that…
“Australia is a lucky country run mainly by second rate people who share its luck. It lives on other people's ideas, and, although its ordinary people are adaptable, most of its leaders (in all fields) so lack curiosity about the events that surround them that they are often taken by surprise"
I’ve seen nothing from Albo and his team to suggest anything is about to change on a grand scale.
Love living here but, fk me, the politics is tedious
But as already mentioned, Australian politics is utterly devoid of new thinking and severely lacking any political heavyweight. It’s so small-minded and full of bickering.
Australian politics continues to show Donald Horne’s perception when in 1964 he said that…
“Australia is a lucky country run mainly by second rate people who share its luck. It lives on other people's ideas, and, although its ordinary people are adaptable, most of its leaders (in all fields) so lack curiosity about the events that surround them that they are often taken by surprise"
I’ve seen nothing from Albo and his team to suggest anything is about to change on a grand scale.
Love living here but, f
k me, the politics is tediousThere was no sausage stall at my polling place 
If Frydenberg loses then that is a massive blow to the Libs. He comes across as a decent bloke and would be a good party leader. Instead it is likely Voldemort is going to get it, which just gives them a massive image problem - probably worse than the one they had with ScoMo.
If Frydenberg loses then that is a massive blow to the Libs. He comes across as a decent bloke and would be a good party leader. Instead it is likely Voldemort is going to get it, which just gives them a massive image problem - probably worse than the one they had with ScoMo.
Jader1973 said:
There was no sausage stall at my polling place
If Frydenberg loses then that is a massive blow to the Libs. He comes across as a decent bloke
Hmmm he's said and done a lot of stuff that comes across as far less than decent imho.If Frydenberg loses then that is a massive blow to the Libs. He comes across as a decent bloke
Commiserations on the lack of democracy sausage, our school had on snags, pizza and cake for a full federal election feast.
Pommy said:
For those not familiar with Australian politics, it's important to realise what a cluster fk it is.
The just defeated PM is hugely unpopular as an individual due to, well everything, but ultimately being a lying, corrupt, 'not my fault', go on holiday in an emergency, deflecting, mysoginistic, jobs and money for the boys grade A, 100%.
The Liberals lost not so much due to being a terrible party but because it's leader was so dislikeable.
Money backed from the coal industry, so fought against any renewable energy solutions. If only Australia had some vast internal unused space and constant sunshine where they could put solar farms... I think Australias weather was described as two seasons, on fire or flooded k it is.The just defeated PM is hugely unpopular as an individual due to, well everything, but ultimately being a lying, corrupt, 'not my fault', go on holiday in an emergency, deflecting, mysoginistic, jobs and money for the boys grade A, 100%
.The Liberals lost not so much due to being a terrible party but because it's leader was so dislikeable.
In another nod to Boris, he also tried rugby tackling a small child during a press event football match.
It looks like Labor (I know, but that's the way they spell it now) are probably going to get a majority in the lower house, but will need Green support in the senate.
Our new local member is a Lib, but has gone from a ''safe" 7% margin to 1.5%.
Massive kick in the balls to the previous govt. And they well deserved it.
If Voldemort (Peter Dutton) gets the Liberal leadership, they can kiss Victoria goodbye for a while.
I'm not the only one who remembers him claiming we were too scared to go out at night because of the "African gangs". A disgusting bit of race-baiting scaremongering in the last state election campaign - which ended up as a landslide defeat for the Libs.
Our new local member is a Lib, but has gone from a ''safe" 7% margin to 1.5%.
Massive kick in the balls to the previous govt. And they well deserved it.
If Voldemort (Peter Dutton) gets the Liberal leadership, they can kiss Victoria goodbye for a while.
I'm not the only one who remembers him claiming we were too scared to go out at night because of the "African gangs". A disgusting bit of race-baiting scaremongering in the last state election campaign - which ended up as a landslide defeat for the Libs.
I had the "pleasure" of meeting the now PM when he was in the early stages of election campaigning. He came to my place of work to see some Australian manufacturing and gave his morning press conference.
Considering this was my first in-person encounter with an MP and they may well all be like this, he comes across as being more fake than a $7 note. The TV reporters asked him a series of questions that he gave a half answer to then steered the conversation onto what he wanted to say. The reporters just let him get away with it and never pushed him for a decent answer.
In response to one question he was saying that a larger oil and gas project in the south of Perth was great and we should have more of that kind of thing, then in response to another question he said that we should be clamping down on nasty greenhouse gas emitting projects - None of them noticed the contradiction.
He has no charisma, no real "personality" and doesn't really seem like the kind of bloke you'd enjoy spending time with if he had a "normal job".
I fear that he is our Biden - The best the country can do is an old bloke who's been around the block a few times and will probably do nothing that he claimed he would.
Same s**t, different face.
Considering this was my first in-person encounter with an MP and they may well all be like this, he comes across as being more fake than a $7 note. The TV reporters asked him a series of questions that he gave a half answer to then steered the conversation onto what he wanted to say. The reporters just let him get away with it and never pushed him for a decent answer.
In response to one question he was saying that a larger oil and gas project in the south of Perth was great and we should have more of that kind of thing, then in response to another question he said that we should be clamping down on nasty greenhouse gas emitting projects - None of them noticed the contradiction.
He has no charisma, no real "personality" and doesn't really seem like the kind of bloke you'd enjoy spending time with if he had a "normal job".
I fear that he is our Biden - The best the country can do is an old bloke who's been around the block a few times and will probably do nothing that he claimed he would.
Same s**t, different face.
AW111 said:
It looks like Labor (I know, but that's the way they spell it now) are probably going to get a majority in the lower house, but will need Green support in the senate.
Our new local member is a Lib, but has gone from a ''safe" 7% margin to 1.5%.
Massive kick in the balls to the previous govt. And they well deserved it.
If Voldemort (Peter Dutton) gets the Liberal leadership, they can kiss Victoria goodbye for a while.
I'm not the only one who remembers him claiming we were too scared to go out at night because of the "African gangs". A disgusting bit of race-baiting scaremongering in the last state election campaign - which ended up as a landslide defeat for the Libs.
Is it possible to compare in a sentence or 3 the Liberals there to the Liberals in the UK?Our new local member is a Lib, but has gone from a ''safe" 7% margin to 1.5%.
Massive kick in the balls to the previous govt. And they well deserved it.
If Voldemort (Peter Dutton) gets the Liberal leadership, they can kiss Victoria goodbye for a while.
I'm not the only one who remembers him claiming we were too scared to go out at night because of the "African gangs". A disgusting bit of race-baiting scaremongering in the last state election campaign - which ended up as a landslide defeat for the Libs.
Randy Winkman said:
Is it possible to compare in a sentence or 3 the Liberals there to the Liberals in the UK?
Approximately:Aus Liberals = UK Tories.
They are the conservative party, and over the last decade or so have been adopting some of the US Republican style divisiveness to boot, trying to get the "conservative Christian" vote.
Aus Labor = UK Labour
The new kids on the block are the "Teal independants" - a loose grouping of centre-right conservatives who feel the Liberal party has abandoned them as it moved to the right in the last decade or two.
They have won several blue-ribbon Liberal seats, including the one held by the (former) treasurer.
One thing to remember is that we have preferential voting, so if your first pick doesn't win, your vote isn't wasted.
My first preference was for a candidate I didn't expect to win, but wanted to encourage, with 2nd prefererence going to a major party.
Jader1973 said:
There was no sausage stall at my polling place
Disgraceful. I would say Labor succeeded in being the least unpopular party rather than calling it a "win." What you are seeing overall though is that neither party seems to be appealing to voters. Voting for the Australian House of Representatives is based on a preferential voting system. In the 2007 election, 15% of voters gave their first preference vote to minor parties or independents. By 2019, that figure had increased to 25%. With most of the votes now counted, the figure for the latest election has jumped to 32%.
Still, if you don't like the current Australian Prime Minister, just turn on the telly tomorrow to find out who has replaced him.
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