Wonder how much this new Toy has cost (us) the MOD?
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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-61647134
Good to hear that those IT geniuses in Whitehall have something else to spunk our cash on.
Good to hear that those IT geniuses in Whitehall have something else to spunk our cash on.
Mrr T said:
Richard North pointed out that at the Jubilee parade the army had 250 horses. This means the UK Army now has more horses than tanks (221).
What's the problem. So 29 horses will have to share a tank with their mate...? At least some Poindexter will be happily pissing about with a computer that doesn't actually do anything practical.
Mrr T said:
Richard North pointed out that at the Jubilee parade the army had 250 horses. This means the UK Army now has more horses than tanks (221).
Cool story, but we don't actually need tanks, whereas a quantum computer will be pretty much essential as soon as someone else has one that works.That article is complete b
ks though.bucksmanuk said:
I suspect it may be used for work at Aldermaston
as its "run" by the MOD nowadays...
From the article and my primitive understanding it won't be used for anything it will be developed with the MOD and experiments carried out into the technology we are a long way from using quantum computers. But let's say I. 20 years we can...self driving vehicles will be a thing...so you know more unemploymentas its "run" by the MOD nowadays...
Gecko1978 said:
From the article and my primitive understanding it won't be used for anything it will be developed with the MOD and experiments carried out into the technology we are a long way from using quantum computers. But let's say I. 20 years we can...self driving vehicles will be a thing...so you know more unemployment
The issue with quantum computers is that they are so much faster that they would defeat non-quantum cryptography, for whoever gets there first it would be like removing everyone's passwords and having free access to anything connected to the internet. A bit more problematic than having to manage unemployment!Given that certain unnamed countries reknowned for cyber attacks have the odd quantum computer.
They have even developed a laser technology that land based comms to satellites to other satellites back to land can never be intercepted without them knowing.
I think it's quite right we should be investing in our security.
Future warfare will not rely on tanks etc.
They have even developed a laser technology that land based comms to satellites to other satellites back to land can never be intercepted without them knowing.
I think it's quite right we should be investing in our security.
Future warfare will not rely on tanks etc.
"The MoD will work with Orca's small PT-1 quantum computer, which the company says is the first of its kind to be able to operate at room temperature, rather than require sub-zero surroundings to keep heat-sensitive qubits cool."
I like the BBC saying they want to keep the data cool and not the hardware.
I like the BBC saying they want to keep the data cool and not the hardware.
Jim the Sunderer said:
"The MoD will work with Orca's small PT-1 quantum computer, which the company says is the first of its kind to be able to operate at room temperature, rather than require sub-zero surroundings to keep heat-sensitive qubits cool."
I like the BBC saying they want to keep the data cool and not the hardware.
The thing is it's the BBC who don't understand any of this paraphrasing the University of Sussex, who also don't understand any of this.I like the BBC saying they want to keep the data cool and not the hardware.
paulrockliffe said:
Gecko1978 said:
From the article and my primitive understanding it won't be used for anything it will be developed with the MOD and experiments carried out into the technology we are a long way from using quantum computers. But let's say I. 20 years we can...self driving vehicles will be a thing...so you know more unemployment
The issue with quantum computers is that they are so much faster that they would defeat non-quantum cryptography, for whoever gets there first it would be like removing everyone's passwords and having free access to anything connected to the internet. A bit more problematic than having to manage unemployment!I still think it's not a bad use of their time and funding. "Cyber" will be (likely already is) a big part of modern warfare.
As for more automation meaning less jobs...people have been saying that since the wheel was invented. We are nothing if not creative in keeping ourselves busy. But nature will have its way with our species at some point...it's experimenting at the moment, with consumerism, health impacts of automation, dicking about with viruses etc...but when nature gets serious (increasing our longevity etc) then we're screwed no matter what

poo at Paul's said:
Mrr T said:
Richard North pointed out that at the Jubilee parade the army had 250 horses. This means the UK Army now has more horses than tanks (221).
What's the problem. So 29 horses will have to share a tank with their mate...? Murph7355 said:
paulrockliffe said:
Gecko1978 said:
From the article and my primitive understanding it won't be used for anything it will be developed with the MOD and experiments carried out into the technology we are a long way from using quantum computers. But let's say I. 20 years we can...self driving vehicles will be a thing...so you know more unemployment
The issue with quantum computers is that they are so much faster that they would defeat non-quantum cryptography, for whoever gets there first it would be like removing everyone's passwords and having free access to anything connected to the internet. A bit more problematic than having to manage unemployment!I still think it's not a bad use of their time and funding. "Cyber" will be (likely already is) a big part of modern warfare.
As for more automation meaning less jobs...people have been saying that since the wheel was invented. We are nothing if not creative in keeping ourselves busy. But nature will have its way with our species at some point...it's experimenting at the moment, with consumerism, health impacts of automation, dicking about with viruses etc...but when nature gets serious (increasing our longevity etc) then we're screwed no matter what

Jenny Tailor said:
Given that certain unnamed countries reknowned for cyber attacks have the odd quantum computer.
They have even developed a laser technology that land based comms to satellites to other satellites back to land can never be intercepted without them knowing.
I think it's quite right we should be investing in our security.
Future warfare will not rely on tanks etc.
No need to be cryptic. The Chinese are one of the leaders in QE comms. They had it working from ground to sat in the last decade. They have even developed a laser technology that land based comms to satellites to other satellites back to land can never be intercepted without them knowing.
I think it's quite right we should be investing in our security.
Future warfare will not rely on tanks etc.
https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/china-s...
robemcdonald said:
Murph7355 said:
paulrockliffe said:
Gecko1978 said:
From the article and my primitive understanding it won't be used for anything it will be developed with the MOD and experiments carried out into the technology we are a long way from using quantum computers. But let's say I. 20 years we can...self driving vehicles will be a thing...so you know more unemployment
The issue with quantum computers is that they are so much faster that they would defeat non-quantum cryptography, for whoever gets there first it would be like removing everyone's passwords and having free access to anything connected to the internet. A bit more problematic than having to manage unemployment!I still think it's not a bad use of their time and funding. "Cyber" will be (likely already is) a big part of modern warfare.
As for more automation meaning less jobs...people have been saying that since the wheel was invented. We are nothing if not creative in keeping ourselves busy. But nature will have its way with our species at some point...it's experimenting at the moment, with consumerism, health impacts of automation, dicking about with viruses etc...but when nature gets serious (increasing our longevity etc) then we're screwed no matter what

And then you lose the war because you spent all your money on a computer, while they have non IoT men with non IoT guns

I get the point of quantum computers, and they need to explore them to see what they might be able to do with them... but the biggest issue with all computing is the data IO.
To ask a quantum computer something that you want a specific and reliable answer from, it'll need to have a lot of information.
Indeed, to give a fully reliable answer it'll need to know the state of the universe before calculating, and to know the state of the universe it'll have to measure it, which will change the answer... oh noes.
Quantum computing will be very unlikely to give the ability to win a war without ever firing a bullet.
paulrockliffe said:
Gecko1978 said:
From the article and my primitive understanding it won't be used for anything it will be developed with the MOD and experiments carried out into the technology we are a long way from using quantum computers. But let's say I. 20 years we can...self driving vehicles will be a thing...so you know more unemployment
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