31 arrested in Idaho on the way to riot at pride

[gregs656]

https://www.spokesman.com/stories/2022/jun/12/sher...

https://www.cnn.com/2022/06/13/us/idaho-patriot-fr...

White nationalists and Mormons.

Seems lucky this lot got caught, hopefully we don't see more of this.

[bitchstewie]

White balaclavas and matching hats.

Lovely stuff.

That place really does have some issues.

[Biggy Stardust]

What alleged offence were they arrested for, exactly?

[ZedLeg]

There’s already been more. Proud Boys rampaged through a library when they were doing an event.

https://www.kqed.org/news/11916918/sheriffs-invest...

People have been saying for months that the anti trans fervour is leading into a more generally anti lgbt+ movement and now it’s happening.

[bitchstewie]

Biggy Stardust said:

What alleged offence were they arrested for, exactly?

Charged with "misdemeanor conspiracy to riot" from the CNN article.

[gregs656]

bhstewie said:

Charged with "misdemeanor conspiracy to riot" from the CNN article.

Also from the article:

'The group was dressed similarly, wearing khaki pants, blue shirts and hats with plastic inside them, the chief said. They were also equipped with "shields, shin guards and other riot gear," along with papers White described as "similar to an operations plan that a police or military group would put together for an event."'

[tangerine_sedge]

gregs656 said:

bhstewie said:

Charged with "misdemeanor conspiracy to riot" from the CNN article.

Also from the article:

'The group was dressed similarly, wearing khaki pants, blue shirts and hats with plastic inside them, the chief said. They were also equipped with "shields, shin guards and other riot gear," along with papers White described as "similar to an operations plan that a police or military group would put together for an event."'

Bunch of man-child racists and hate-mongers, enraged and enabled by right wing media and politicians, fighting a culture war that only exists in their heads and media feeds. Small in numbers but very vocal and willing to intimidate anyone they see as the enemy. There will be more of this leading up to the next US election...

[anonymous-user]

I have relatives in Idaho, and their son is 17. I feel massively sorry for him. He's a really nice guy, and last time I was chatting to him, he said he has been bullied the entire way through school because he is politely spoken, a bit nerdy, reads a lot, is intelligent, is non-religious, and likes computers and gaming.

He was saying that everyone else at school is either Mormon, redneck/hillbilly, racist/religious country types, into sports and guns, or a farmers son. He is none of those things. He's been over here a few times to visit and stay, and actually prefers it over here as he sees it as far more 'normal' and tolerant than the utter st show he has grown up with. That being said, I'm sure their are many other places he could live in the US where he would fit in better.

[take-good-care-of-the-forest-dewey]

Does make for a great band name though...

White nationalists and the Mormons.

[Beati Dogu]

Obvious Feds are obvious.

[gregs656]

Beati Dogu said:

Obvious Feds are obvious.

Evidence?

[dudleybloke]

The magic pants didn't save them this time.

[Gecko1978]

ZedLeg said:

There’s already been more. Proud Boys rampaged through a library when they were doing an event.

https://www.kqed.org/news/11916918/sheriffs-invest...

People have been saying for months that the anti trans fervour is leading into a more generally anti lgbt+ movement and now it’s happening.

I think you have a point (we do agree on occasion). Pride month as I understand it the origins of pride are a protest a fight back etc. Now anyone can marry anyone and you can pick your gender (can't expect others to believe you but you can hope they show you some basic human decency).

So do we need a pride protest month that is latched onto by big business (unless its in the ME then they pretend it's not happening). I would be infavour in the UK of a named day like St's Days but Pride Day along with a BAME day don't have to make it a holiday (St Georges day is not) but a marked event etc. The rest of it let people do whatever they like after all I think Mormons are mental but it's up to them.

[gotoPzero]

Lord Marylebone said:

He was saying that everyone else at school is either Mormon, redneck/hillbilly, racist/religious country types, into sports and guns, or a farmers son. He is none of those things. He's been over here a few times to visit and stay, and actually prefers it over here as he sees it as far more 'normal' and tolerant than the utter st show he has grown up with. That being said, I'm sure their are many other places he could live in the US where he would fit in better.

And people wonder why they struggle to bring in any kind of gun controls. There is a massive portion of the country that's still basically stuck in 1911. (some will get the reference... )

[gregs656]

Gecko1978 said:

I think you have a point (we do agree on occasion). Pride month as I understand it the origins of pride are a protest a fight back etc. Now anyone can marry anyone and you can pick your gender (can't expect others to believe you but you can hope they show you some basic human decency).

So do we need a pride protest month that is latched onto by big business (unless its in the ME then they pretend it's not happening). I would be infavour in the UK of a named day like St's Days but Pride Day along with a BAME day don't have to make it a holiday (St Georges day is not) but a marked event etc. The rest of it let people do whatever they like after all I think Mormons are mental but it's up to them.

That's your take away from this story?

Pride Month came from the Clinton presidency, it's not a thing in the UK in any official sense.

[Beati Dogu]

dudleybloke said:

The magic pants didn't save them this time.

Exactly.

[gregs656]

Thought so. Keep the conspiracies somewhere else.

[Gecko1978]

gregs656 said:

Gecko1978 said:

I think you have a point (we do agree on occasion). Pride month as I understand it the origins of pride are a protest a fight back etc. Now anyone can marry anyone and you can pick your gender (can't expect others to believe you but you can hope they show you some basic human decency).

So do we need a pride protest month that is latched onto by big business (unless its in the ME then they pretend it's not happening). I would be infavour in the UK of a named day like St's Days but Pride Day along with a BAME day don't have to make it a holiday (St Georges day is not) but a marked event etc. The rest of it let people do whatever they like after all I think Mormons are mental but it's up to them.

That's your take away from this story?

Pride Month came from the Clinton presidency, it's not a thing in the UK in any official sense.

Thus story was on the BBC last week a bunch of right wing types were seen with masks an riot shields getting into a bus day of the event. We don't know they were going there or to cause trouble (my guess would be heading there to hurl abuse an had shields to protect themselves from likely hood of being attacked after inciting hate).

So my take away is who gives a fk its America free speech etc which means Pro Pride and Anti LGBTQIA+ get to say whatever they want

[J4CKO]

Dressing up all the same and going to Pride ?

Nothing says repressed homosexuality louder to me than doing that.

[ZedLeg]

Gecko1978 said:

ZedLeg said:

There’s already been more. Proud Boys rampaged through a library when they were doing an event.

https://www.kqed.org/news/11916918/sheriffs-invest...

People have been saying for months that the anti trans fervour is leading into a more generally anti lgbt+ movement and now it’s happening.

I think you have a point (we do agree on occasion). Pride month as I understand it the origins of pride are a protest a fight back etc. Now anyone can marry anyone and you can pick your gender (can't expect others to believe you but you can hope they show you some basic human decency).

So do we need a pride protest month that is latched onto by big business (unless its in the ME then they pretend it's not happening). I would be infavour in the UK of a named day like St's Days but Pride Day along with a BAME day don't have to make it a holiday (St Georges day is not) but a marked event etc. The rest of it let people do whatever they like after all I think Mormons are mental but it's up to them.

This doesn’t have anything at all to do with what I said. You’ve just quoted me then had a moan about pride month.

Pride is a protest and if anything stuff like this shows why it’s still important for LGBT+ people to plant a flag, so to speak.