"No New Oil" Protesters
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bitchstewie

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64,128 posts

233 months

Saturday 2nd July 2022
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Apologies if there's already a thread but I couldn't spot it.

'I don't want to hear a word of what you've got to say!' Ranting Just Stop oil eco-zealots are silenced by hero gallery worker who orders them to 'get off our paintings and get out' as they glue themselves to THIRD artwork in latest stunt

Vandalising an art gallery FFS.

The state of it.

I might not agree with them gluing themselves to the road outside an oil refinery but at least I get the link.

What on earth do they hope to achieve with that kind of criminality?

Miserablegit

4,391 posts

132 months

Saturday 2nd July 2022
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Publicity….that’s what they get.




gruffalo

8,090 posts

249 months

Saturday 2nd July 2022
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What a great example of how to bring a campaign into disrepute!


glazbagun

15,121 posts

220 months

Saturday 2nd July 2022
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gruffalo said:
What a great example of how to bring a campaign into disrepute!
I actually thought it was pretty sensitive. They're glued to the frame and the artwork is untouched. Many a painting has had paint thrown over it for no great cause.

ecsrobin

18,509 posts

188 months

Saturday 2nd July 2022
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bhstewie said:
Apologies if there's already a thread but I couldn't spot it.

'I don't want to hear a word of what you've got to say!' Ranting Just Stop oil eco-zealots are silenced by hero gallery worker who orders them to 'get off our paintings and get out' as they glue themselves to THIRD artwork in latest stunt

Vandalising an art gallery FFS.

The state of it.

I might not agree with them gluing themselves to the road outside an oil refinery but at least I get the link.

What on earth do they hope to achieve with that kind of criminality?
Is it an oil painting?

Ivan stewart

2,792 posts

59 months

Saturday 2nd July 2022
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Can’t we just ship these types to Rwanda and let the migrants take their place I’m sure they would make a greater contribution to our country..

andy43

12,533 posts

277 months

Saturday 2nd July 2022
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ecsrobin said:
bhstewie said:
Apologies if there's already a thread but I couldn't spot it.

'I don't want to hear a word of what you've got to say!' Ranting Just Stop oil eco-zealots are silenced by hero gallery worker who orders them to 'get off our paintings and get out' as they glue themselves to THIRD artwork in latest stunt

Vandalising an art gallery FFS.

The state of it.

I might not agree with them gluing themselves to the road outside an oil refinery but at least I get the link.

What on earth do they hope to achieve with that kind of criminality?
Is it an oil painting?
Watercolour. Send in the fire hoses.

BabySharkDooDooDooDooDooDoo

15,078 posts

192 months

Saturday 2nd July 2022
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Ivan stewart said:
Can’t we just ship these types to Rwanda and let the migrants take their place I’m sure they would make a greater contribution to our country..
You’ve got my vote hehe

mfmman

3,136 posts

206 months

Saturday 2nd July 2022
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“No new oil”?

I thought all of that sort of oil was old anyway?

Confused

FiF

47,892 posts

274 months

Saturday 2nd July 2022
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My question is whether these protestors are ever required to pay the cost, the full cost, of repairing any damage and cleaning up after their protests.

Their fines, linked somewhat to income appreciate that, but the cost of restoring the frame of an old master's painting, not going to be a few quid for a bit of filler and a rattle can of goldfish coloured spray paint from B and Q is it.

The full cost should be imposed, if they can't pay, court action to recover what is owed, and if they even don't have goods to the value bankrupt them. Essentially just screw up their lives.

Freedom to protest is one thing, deliberate damage is something else.

glazbagun

15,121 posts

220 months

Saturday 2nd July 2022
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FiF said:
My question is whether these protestors are ever required to pay the cost, the full cost, of repairing any damage and cleaning up after their protests.

Their fines, linked somewhat to income appreciate that, but the cost of restoring the frame of an old master's painting, not going to be a few quid for a bit of filler and a rattle can of goldfish coloured spray paint from B and Q is it.

The full cost should be imposed, if they can't pay, court action to recover what is owed, and if they even don't have goods to the value bankrupt them. Essentially just screw up their lives.

Freedom to protest is one thing, deliberate damage is something else.
That doesn't happen if someone mindlessly keys cars or smashes your shopfront. Why do you think it would happen here?


tangerine_sedge

6,166 posts

241 months

Saturday 2nd July 2022
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glazbagun said:
FiF said:
My question is whether these protestors are ever required to pay the cost, the full cost, of repairing any damage and cleaning up after their protests.

Their fines, linked somewhat to income appreciate that, but the cost of restoring the frame of an old master's painting, not going to be a few quid for a bit of filler and a rattle can of goldfish coloured spray paint from B and Q is it.

The full cost should be imposed, if they can't pay, court action to recover what is owed, and if they even don't have goods to the value bankrupt them. Essentially just screw up their lives.

Freedom to protest is one thing, deliberate damage is something else.
That doesn't happen if someone mindlessly keys cars or smashes your shopfront. Why do you think it would happen here?
In those cases, the criminals have normally fled the scene of the crime... a bit more difficult when you're still attached hehe

Johnnytheboy

24,499 posts

209 months

Saturday 2nd July 2022
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I'd kind of rather they were in an art gallery than the middle of the bloody road.

Red9zero

10,359 posts

80 months

Saturday 2nd July 2022
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glazbagun said:
That doesn't happen if someone mindlessly keys cars or smashes your shopfront. Why do you think it would happen here?
Sad, but true. Neighbour had their car keyed on every panel, effectively writing it off. Culprit got a fine.

Vanden Saab

17,323 posts

97 months

Saturday 2nd July 2022
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bhstewie said:
Apologies if there's already a thread but I couldn't spot it.

'I don't want to hear a word of what you've got to say!' Ranting Just Stop oil eco-zealots are silenced by hero gallery worker who orders them to 'get off our paintings and get out' as they glue themselves to THIRD artwork in latest stunt

Vandalising an art gallery FFS.

The state of it.

I might not agree with them gluing themselves to the road outside an oil refinery but at least I get the link.

What on earth do they hope to achieve with that kind of criminality?
What did you expect to happen when the people who pulled a statue down were supported by the useful idiots on here and let off in court. There were some of us who pointed out at the time that as you say actions have consequences but we were dismissed as wacists or something. Welcome to the brave new world you have been cheering on for years...

808 Estate

2,568 posts

114 months

Sunday 3rd July 2022
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Why doesnt the gallery just bring one of those mobile screens in and remove them from view. Protest over job done.

crankedup5

10,917 posts

58 months

Sunday 3rd July 2022
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Vanden Saab said:
bhstewie said:
Apologies if there's already a thread but I couldn't spot it.

'I don't want to hear a word of what you've got to say!' Ranting Just Stop oil eco-zealots are silenced by hero gallery worker who orders them to 'get off our paintings and get out' as they glue themselves to THIRD artwork in latest stunt

Vandalising an art gallery FFS.

The state of it.

I might not agree with them gluing themselves to the road outside an oil refinery but at least I get the link.

What on earth do they hope to achieve with that kind of criminality?
What did you expect to happen when the people who pulled a statue down were supported by the useful idiots on here and let off in court. There were some of us who pointed out at the time that as you say actions have consequences but we were dismissed as wacists or something. Welcome to the brave new world you have been cheering on for years...
Indeed, the U.K. needs a far more robust reaction to protesters that deliberately cause damage to public property. Far to much pandering and nannying by our police who have their hands handcuffed by softly softly legislation.

bitchstewie

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64,128 posts

233 months

Sunday 3rd July 2022
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crankedup5 said:
Indeed, the U.K. needs a far more robust reaction to protesters that deliberately cause damage to public property. Far to much pandering and nannying by our police who have their hands handcuffed by softly softly legislation.
The Police can arrest people if they think they've committed an offence.

Otherwise how did the people in Bristol end up arrested charged and in court?

Why did the two people in this article get arrested?

Stop being so reactionary hehe

crankedup5

10,917 posts

58 months

Sunday 3rd July 2022
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bhstewie said:
crankedup5 said:
Indeed, the U.K. needs a far more robust reaction to protesters that deliberately cause damage to public property. Far to much pandering and nannying by our police who have their hands handcuffed by softly softly legislation.
The Police can arrest people if they think they've committed an offence.

Otherwise how did the people in Bristol end up arrested charged and in court?

Why did the two people in this article get arrested?

Stop being so reactionary hehe
‘If they think they have committed a crime’ well that’s the whole point of the debate, what is a crime? Is it a crime stopping people going about their daily lives for example, the deliberate obstruction of access to services, is that a crime. These are the very questions that require answers, we know of the outcomes from earlier criminal damage by protesters.
Sadly our police are not allowed to use the tactics of operations from the French police in dealing with morons gluing themselves to roads for example.

A Winner Is You

25,795 posts

250 months

Sunday 3rd July 2022
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bhstewie said:
crankedup5 said:
Indeed, the U.K. needs a far more robust reaction to protesters that deliberately cause damage to public property. Far to much pandering and nannying by our police who have their hands handcuffed by softly softly legislation.
The Police can arrest people if they think they've committed an offence.

Otherwise how did the people in Bristol end up arrested charged and in court?

Why did the two people in this article get arrested?

Stop being so reactionary hehe
Given the one on the left is the guy who cable-tied himself to goalposts in a previous protest, then clearly the sentences are not acting as a deterrent.