What kind of Prime minister would you find acceptable?
Poll: What kind of Prime minister would you find acceptable?
Total Members Polled: 71
Discussion
Given the huge deal made of Boris because he had a drink in lock down, plus of course his other indiscretions which has forced him out, i wondered how 'dirty' a PM can be that people would accept?
Is it ok to be Trump like (blatant lying, manipulating and almost dictatorship behavior) but the country becomes stronger because of the policy decisions, or do they need to be clean like a next messiah and get away with sub par policies?
I guess its a question of how dirty can they be verses performance in the job to be acceptable to you?
Note im not saying Boris or Trump fits any of the above descriptions as both, in my opinion, way underperformed verses their 'dirty' rating
How about one that tells the truth, admits mistakes and is competent.
Don’t mind what they do in their private life but care an awful lot about covering up lies and not doing their day job.
And puts the country first rather than self interest - probably too much to ask for from any leader these days I suppose……….
Don’t mind what they do in their private life but care an awful lot about covering up lies and not doing their day job.
And puts the country first rather than self interest - probably too much to ask for from any leader these days I suppose……….
greygoose said:
KarlMac said:
I don’t agree with the premise of the question. Boris and Trump we’re both s
te at their jobs and were also wrong uns.
Indeed.te at their jobs and were also wrong uns. i am not saying Trump or Boris meets that description in full!
its just i see continuous 'sandal' of the PM (no mater who is in charge' and wonder, does it really matter, are we looking for a saint or a great leader? or do they have to be both?
KarlMac said:
I don’t agree with the premise of the question. Boris and Trump we’re both ste at their jobs and were also wrong uns.
This.te at their jobs and were also wrong uns. Conversely, just because someone is squeaky clean doesn't mean that they will be below par, or indeed any worse than anyone else.
I do think that absolute integrity and trustworthyness are critial requirements for anyone aspiring to the highest political office, however, so no matter how good they are, they should be out on their arse if they're caught cheating or lying.
Boringvolvodriver said:
Don’t mind what they do in their private life ....
Neither do I, until their private life shenanigans begin to tell you something about their character. Johnson, on 5 occasions has got women pregnant whilst being married to other women, was taken to court by one woman trying to get him to accept paternity and pay up, left his wife and mother of 4 kids whilst she was being treated for cancer, has either 7 or 8 kids of which he has a relationship with only 2.
All that is his private life, but there's enough their to tell you he's a wrong 'un, and was always going to be a dreadful PM.
TwigtheWonderkid said:
Neither do I, until their private life shenanigans begin to tell you something about their character.
Johnson, on 5 occasions has got women pregnant whilst being married to other women, was taken to court by one woman trying to get him to accept paternity and pay up, left his wife and mother of 4 kids whilst she was being treated for cancer, has either 7 or 8 kids of which he has a relationship with only 2.
All that is his private life, but there's enough their to tell you he's a wrong 'un, and was always going to be a dreadful PM.
Very true - some of us knew what he was like many years ago - sadly he managed to convince a lot of people that he was “good old Boris - he’s one of us”! Johnson, on 5 occasions has got women pregnant whilst being married to other women, was taken to court by one woman trying to get him to accept paternity and pay up, left his wife and mother of 4 kids whilst she was being treated for cancer, has either 7 or 8 kids of which he has a relationship with only 2.
All that is his private life, but there's enough their to tell you he's a wrong 'un, and was always going to be a dreadful PM.
Not sure why anyone cares about the prime minister.
It could be a computer for all I care.
Ultimately I want a government that makes as many right decisions as possible for the good of the country.
If they happen to be the type I'd hate as neighbours and running around dressed in weird clothing spanking each other I couldn't care.
I'd vote based on results.
It could be a computer for all I care.
Ultimately I want a government that makes as many right decisions as possible for the good of the country.
If they happen to be the type I'd hate as neighbours and running around dressed in weird clothing spanking each other I couldn't care.
I'd vote based on results.
Irrespective of party, an ability to show integrity, empathy, honesty, commercial and political acumen and a sense of duty. It would also see good to see a leader who has a strong intellect.
A mix of Atlee, Gladstone, Blair and Thatcher (I say the latter holding my nose, but she was first and foremost a public servant - the current Cabinet would have remained firmly on the back benches under her).
Whoever become PM, especially the ones who claim military service, including the cosplay Sea Cadet, could do a lot worse than model themselves on Maj Dick Winters.
A mix of Atlee, Gladstone, Blair and Thatcher (I say the latter holding my nose, but she was first and foremost a public servant - the current Cabinet would have remained firmly on the back benches under her).
Whoever become PM, especially the ones who claim military service, including the cosplay Sea Cadet, could do a lot worse than model themselves on Maj Dick Winters.
Edited by Castrol for a knave on Thursday 14th July 16:57
snotrag said:
Someone that has experienced life in the UK outside of politics.
Ran a company, managed people, paid bills, answered to the tax man, had to make decisions that affect peoples earnings and company profits, answered to a board and shareholders.
This would be an excellent start. If the UK had to run on the same basis as a normal business, it would have gone broke years ago.Ran a company, managed people, paid bills, answered to the tax man, had to make decisions that affect peoples earnings and company profits, answered to a board and shareholders.
Businesses don't have the luxury of repeatedly going to the workers, banks or shareholders to ask for more because they have messed up. Fixed costs, outgoings and income have to balance to survive but politicians apparently ignore this simple principle.
Well, they are meant to be the leader of all of us, so I see nothing unreasonable about hoping for an exceptional person.
Honest, integrity, backbone, charisma, humility, humour, entrepreneurial, empathetic, generous. All would hopefully apply to some degree...
(i.e. Most of the things that Boris and Trump aren't).
Honest, integrity, backbone, charisma, humility, humour, entrepreneurial, empathetic, generous. All would hopefully apply to some degree...
(i.e. Most of the things that Boris and Trump aren't).
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