How far we’ve fallen in the World.
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As you do ! sitting in a Hotel Sauna a couple of days ago in Lisbon with a German Navy sea Officer and discussing Putin-Gas-Pipeline safety and he pipes up “UK is considered the weakest “ European “ country, all those changes of Prime Ministers-Brexit-and now the Queen dying, I’d rather not live there and I suppose if Putin was going to send a message”
Certainly made me wonder what’s going on ?
Now it looks like the begging bowls coming out !
https://news.sky.com/story/kwasi-kwarteng-in-washi...
Certainly made me wonder what’s going on ?
Now it looks like the begging bowls coming out !
https://news.sky.com/story/kwasi-kwarteng-in-washi...
And yet we’re forecast to have the highest GDP growth in the G7.
It’s good to talk to foreigners when your on your jollies, but don’t believe them all, any more than I believed the vile, racist nonsense spouted by a (sole individual and not representative of his nation) Norwegian fellow GT3 owner at the Nurburgring on a recent trip.
People can have opinions.
It’s good to talk to foreigners when your on your jollies, but don’t believe them all, any more than I believed the vile, racist nonsense spouted by a (sole individual and not representative of his nation) Norwegian fellow GT3 owner at the Nurburgring on a recent trip.
People can have opinions.
Digga said:
And yet we’re forecast to have the highest GDP growth in the G7.
Isn't that their 2022 forecast?2023 isn't looking so good.
https://www.imf.org/-/media/Images/IMF/Publication...
tescorank said:
As you do ! sitting in a Hotel Sauna a couple of days ago in Lisbon with a German Navy sea Officer and discussing Putin-Gas-Pipeline safety and he pipes up “UK is considered the weakest “ European “ country, all those changes of Prime Ministers-Brexit-and now the Queen dying, I’d rather not live there and I suppose if Putin was going to send a message”
Certainly made me wonder what’s going on ?
Now it looks like the begging bowls coming out !
https://news.sky.com/story/kwasi-kwarteng-in-washi...
Ironic that you were talking about Putin and gas and a German wants to talk about our problems with governance.... Certainly made me wonder what’s going on ?
Now it looks like the begging bowls coming out !
https://news.sky.com/story/kwasi-kwarteng-in-washi...
Sure, we have issues. Which Western democracies don't right now. But when it comes to matters Ukraine, I'd have thought a German's best approach would be to keep quiet. Maybe he was deflecting.
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hstewie said:
hstewie said:Digga said:
And yet we’re forecast to have the highest GDP growth in the G7.
Isn't that their 2022 forecast?2023 isn't looking so good.
https://www.imf.org/-/media/Images/IMF/Publication...
Meh, what do they know anyway.
tescorank said:
As you do ! sitting in a Hotel Sauna a couple of days ago in Lisbon with a German Navy sea Officer and discussing Putin-Gas-Pipeline safety and he pipes up “UK is considered the weakest “ European “ country, all those changes of Prime Ministers-Brexit-and now the Queen dying, I’d rather not live there and I suppose if Putin was going to send a message”
sorry can you highlight the punchline?All jingoism aside, we as a nation do need to get our heads out of the sand and realise that, in fact, this is the way a lot of people see us right now.
Pretty much the entire world sees Brexit as a huge self-inflicted mistake. We are economically more isolated than ever and are spending our energies arguing with what should be our closest partners rather than focussing on pragmatic and outward-facing policies.
Our leadership has been failing for years now. Ignoring Brexit, we've had an incredibly high (by our standards) turnover of PMs and the perception is that there is no stability and no long-term planning in place. Johnson was a joke and engendered zero respect from his peers. Truss, to date, has been a disaster every time she's opened her mouth and her appointed ministers little better. She and Kwarteng have jointly engineered the biggest economic crisis we've seen in the UK since 2008. When the IMF is directly criticising domestic fiscal policy, you know you've gone really badly wrong.
The queen dying is not the non-event that some seem to think. She has been regarded as a symbol of British steadiness for 70 years, and Charles is still very much an unknown quantity. If we were otherwise prospering and going through a stable period of government and growth, it would be less of an issue. But as another factor to throw into the mix - especially with the ultimate break-up of the Union very much a point of renewed discussion - it's foolish to dismiss out of hand the effects that a new monarch could have.
I love my country, really I do. I want us to be strong and I want to be able to take pride in our position in the world. But to deny our problems and to pretend that we don't have, at the very least, a serious image problem amongst our peer nations is to ignore the uncomfortable truth.
Pretty much the entire world sees Brexit as a huge self-inflicted mistake. We are economically more isolated than ever and are spending our energies arguing with what should be our closest partners rather than focussing on pragmatic and outward-facing policies.
Our leadership has been failing for years now. Ignoring Brexit, we've had an incredibly high (by our standards) turnover of PMs and the perception is that there is no stability and no long-term planning in place. Johnson was a joke and engendered zero respect from his peers. Truss, to date, has been a disaster every time she's opened her mouth and her appointed ministers little better. She and Kwarteng have jointly engineered the biggest economic crisis we've seen in the UK since 2008. When the IMF is directly criticising domestic fiscal policy, you know you've gone really badly wrong.
The queen dying is not the non-event that some seem to think. She has been regarded as a symbol of British steadiness for 70 years, and Charles is still very much an unknown quantity. If we were otherwise prospering and going through a stable period of government and growth, it would be less of an issue. But as another factor to throw into the mix - especially with the ultimate break-up of the Union very much a point of renewed discussion - it's foolish to dismiss out of hand the effects that a new monarch could have.
I love my country, really I do. I want us to be strong and I want to be able to take pride in our position in the world. But to deny our problems and to pretend that we don't have, at the very least, a serious image problem amongst our peer nations is to ignore the uncomfortable truth.
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