Short flights by football club players

[Oliver Hardy]

Investigation shows that football clubs are taking very short flights to away games

https://www.express.co.uk/sport/football/1749985/P...

Being millionaires they are exempt from needing to consider the environment, just like well known actors, royals and politicians?

[bongtom]

Dunno, but I will be writing a strongly worded email to my local MP. (Plus I might mention the water companies dumping st into the rivers and seas. big and small corporations also polluting our rivers, people going on unnecessary holidays to Spain, any V8, any car over 200bhp, ULEZ - making people go on longer journeys, erupting volcanoes, China, India and the USA the biggest polluters by a long way, wood burners, plastic pollution, crop burning in SE Asia, pointless rocket launches etc)

Football is boring anyway. Australian rules or Hurling - now there is a sport!


To add. It's not just the players though is it. Support staff, press, family. It's either fly or four coach loads of people. I doubt the pollutants are greater flying.

If you could afford it you would do it. Don't kid us and yourself.

Edited by bongtom on Friday 24th March 06:08

[frisbee]

I think the reality important question is: has Gary Liniker ever taken one of these flights?

[fathomfive]

What proportion of UK domestic flight passenger numbers does this make up?

Or are we supposed to just be grrrrrrr footballers?

[extraT]

It’s the clubs decision, but I’m sure they aren’t protesting.

[Sheepshanks]

I assumed the point was they could get there and back in a day so was a bit surprised that for the Everton to Chelsea flight mentioned on the news they flew down the night before.

[ZedLeg]

Domestic flights should be banned imo. We’re not that big an Island.

[irc]

Big enough island that flights save significant time. Aberdeen London. 90m flight. Train 7hrs+. Plane for me.

[trickywoo]

ZedLeg said:

Domestic flights should be banned imo. We’re not that big an Island.

In theory they are banned for government and government linked activities. It’s a rule which costs the taxpayer a lot of money.

[Electro1980]

bongtom said:

To add. It's not just the players though is it. Support staff, press, family. It's either fly or four coach loads of people. I doubt the pollutants are greater flying.

If you could afford it you would do it. Don't kid us and yourself.

Normal cars (I.e. not footballers cars) would be slightly less polluting.
Coaches would be vastly less polluting.

All per passenger:

Domestic flight - 133g/km co2
Car - 85-45g/km co2 (assuming 2+ people per car)
Coach - 27g/km co2

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-493...

And, no, I wouldn’t fly if I could. Once you take in to account transfer times and faffing about with security it’s unlikely to save any time. Even the most extreme case, Newcastle to Bournemouth, is 6 hours drive or 3h30 to fly plus however long it takes to get to the airport.

There is an argument to fly when your doing it instead of driving yourself or it is cheaper. That is not why football clubs are doing it.

[bitchstewie]

I expect their argument will be it's all part of match preparation and ensuring the players aren't "stressed" by a lengthy coach trip.

[DeejRC]

Oliver Hardy said:

Investigation shows that football clubs are taking very short flights to away games

https://www.express.co.uk/sport/football/1749985/P...

Being millionaires they are exempt from needing to consider the environment, just like well known actors, royals and politicians?

? What about other ppl who take internal UK flights?
Are they allowed to, or is only footballers who are not allowed to?

[ZedLeg]

irc said:

Big enough island that flights save significant time. Aberdeen London. 90m flight. Train 7hrs+. Plane for me.

It's not really 90 mins though is it? You still have to actually get to London from whichever orbiting airport you go to. I get that flying is more convenient for some than other methods, but the number of people who need that convenience must be vanishingly small and is the pollution short flights cause worth it for that?

[croyde]

Everytime I have needed to get across the UK, it's been far cheaper to fly.

The football clubs should be applauded for saving money

[L1OFF]

I was surprised a football club would want all their very valuable assets in an aeroplane.

[trickywoo]

L1OFF said:

I was surprised a football club would want all their very valuable assets in an aeroplane.

I think you’ll find commercial air travel, especially in this country, is safer than the roads.

[CT05 Nose Cone]

L1OFF said:

I was surprised a football club would want all their very valuable assets in an aeroplane.

Surely no different to putting them on a coach?

[Ivan stewart]

Can’t they just work from home !!!

[Sheepshanks]

Electro1980 said:

Even the most extreme case, Newcastle to Bournemouth, is 6 hours drive or 3h30 to fly plus however long it takes to get to the airport.

It’s not going to 3h30 for footballers on a charter flight.

[vikingaero]

ZedLeg said:

Domestic flights should be banned imo. We’re not that big an Island.

What would you do with the Scottish Islanders, who say have to travel Inverness/Glasgow/Edinburgh/Aberdeen for hospital appointments?

1 hour drive to Stornoway Wait an hour to board ferry at Ullapool - 3-4 hours crossing to Ullapool, drive an hour and a half to Inverness. In reality you'd add more time on each leg for delays, and then you have to get home again.