The great replacement

[s1962a]

So I was on twitter looking for information on the ULEZ protest last weekend, and I stumbled across this post about deporting people, and was surprised at the number of replies and their thinly veiled (or not) proposals.

NSFW - warning. https://twitter.com/Steve_Laws_/status/16475955408...

So my question is this - judging by the amount of replies, is this a common/popular feeling, and not just something restricted to the far right? Rather than make this into a woke/anti woke type debate, i'm wondering how popular these opinions may be, and what peoples concerns actually are.

[sugerbear]

There will always be a knuckle headed facists/racist/sexists. Twitter just gives them a free forum to vent their horrible ideas.

Mind you if they are suggesting that I be deported to a nice warm European country + citizenship and maybe a large payoff then where do I sign up?

[anonymous-user]

sugerbear said:

There will always be a knuckle headed facists/racist/sexists. Twitter just gives them a free forum to vent their horrible ideas.

Mind you if they are suggesting that I be deported to a nice warm European country + citizenship and maybe a large payoff then where do I sign up?

This.

Threads like that on Twitter are just utterly mental, and will always attract complete mentalists, racists, nutcases, EDL types, and so on. Always. They make it seem like 'a lot' of support, but even if that Tweet got 2000 replies and 5000 shares, it is a literal drop in the ocean. It is a tiny spec of opinion.

My advice: Just don't read stuff like that as it isn't representative of anything other than an absolutely tiny proportion of our society.

[cirian75]

sugerbear said:

There will always be a knuckle headed facists/racist/sexists. Twitter just gives them a free forum to vent their horrible ideas.

Mind you if they are suggesting that I be deported to a nice warm European country + citizenship and maybe a large payoff then where do I sign up?

Italy sounds nice to me.

My issue with the ULEZ is not the ULEZ its self

Its the issue that the expansion cameras were bought...........................before the consultation.

That stinks, the whole consultation should be done again!

[Jasandjules]

Did people vote to have their freedom of movement restricted in this way?

[bitchstewie]

I'm a middle aged white guy.

My guess is it won't be people like me that Steve thinks should be deported.

[s1962a]

Lord Marylebone said:

sugerbear said:

There will always be a knuckle headed facists/racist/sexists. Twitter just gives them a free forum to vent their horrible ideas.

Mind you if they are suggesting that I be deported to a nice warm European country + citizenship and maybe a large payoff then where do I sign up?

This.

Threads like that on Twitter are just utterly mental, and will always attract complete mentalists, racists, nutcases, EDL types, and so on. Always. They make it seem like 'a lot' of support, but even if that Tweet got 2000 replies and 5000 shares, it is a literal drop in the ocean. It is a tiny spec of opinion.

My advice: Just don't read stuff like that as it isn't representative of anything other than an absolutely tiny proportion of our society.

Twitter isn't my usual haunt - i'm on PH mainly for any discussions, but I was surprised at how many replies that one had. I realise that PH moderation means you can't talk openly about everything, but at least we could discuss how widespread these views are, and whether they are more mainstream than just the far right. From what you say it's a lot of online support and maybe a tiny proportion of our society.

[Lotobear]

Twitter looks to be a cess pit - PH, and another car forum, is the only social media I do and I only see Twitter from links posted on here and it does not seem to be a good place.

...best avoided IMO

[tangerine_sedge]

s1962a said:

So I was on twitter looking for information on the ULEZ protest last weekend, and I stumbled across this post about deporting people, and was surprised at the number of replies and their thinly veiled (or not) proposals.

NSFW - warning. https://twitter.com/Steve_Laws_/status/16475955408...

So my question is this - judging by the amount of replies, is this a common/popular feeling, and not just something restricted to the far right? Rather than make this into a woke/anti woke type debate, i'm wondering how popular these opinions may be, and what peoples concerns actually are.

I think it's not as common as the noise from the far right would have you believe. Twitter/Facebook and forums like PH can consolidate and amplify their views out of all proportion with their actual numbers as evidenced by the lack of support for far right political parties at the polling stations.

I think most PH members acknowledge that the demographic here is right of centre, and we seem to have very few actual racists posting (they always give themselves away), although they are getting better at hiding their actual opinions and talking around the subject instead (usually to cries of show me where I was being racist)...

I think the bigger threat at the moment is how fringe views on various topics are being spun into a spiders web of 'conspiracy theories' inter-twined with some traditional racism, so that people who may have real concerns are being lead slowly towards radicalisation through more openly racist material, i.e. People who may have concens about vaccinations being lead towards blaming the WEF and liberal elites (which is basically shorthand for anti-semitism).

[rodericb]

bhstewie said:

I'm a middle aged white guy.

My guess is it won't be people like me that Steve thinks should be deported.

Yep, I would reckon so.

[eharding]

s1962a said:

So I was on twitter looking for information on the ULEZ protest last weekend, and I stumbled across this post about deporting people, and was surprised at the number of replies and their thinly veiled (or not) proposals.

NSFW - warning. https://twitter.com/Steve_Laws_/status/16475955408...

So my question is this - judging by the amount of replies, is this a common/popular feeling, and not just something restricted to the far right? Rather than make this into a woke/anti woke type debate, i'm wondering how popular these opinions may be, and what peoples concerns actually are.

Is this the same Steve Laws who stood as a UKIP candidate in the Southend West by-election in 2022, gained just under 2.7% of the vote and was beaten by the Psychedelic Movement candidate?

[Catastrophic Poo]

As said earlier, just a bunch of grotty racists mouthing off.

They’ll be nice as pie to Mr Patel from number 57 down the road though, and love a kebab on a Friday night.

[sugerbear]

Catastrophic Poo said:

As said earlier, just a bunch of grotty racists mouthing off.

They’ll be nice as pie to Mr Patel from number 57 down the road though, and love a kebab on a Friday night.

bet they also love an Chicken Tikka Masala as well (and a chicken chow main).

[Al Gorithum]

Although there's a lot of gaslighting going on, IMO these scum also feed off folk's every day experiences to justify their views.

I don't know much about other areas, but I live in what was until recently an aspirational area of North London that has always attracted the relatively well to do. Premier League footballers live nearby. Nowadays the high street is akin to a slum with groups of working age men (of the demographic that the Home Sec is trying to control) hanging around all day and night, drug dealing in plain sight etc.

It's just awful and I have my bags packed.

I don't buy into the Replacement thing but I can see how it may get people riled up.

[Randy Winkman]

Jasandjules said:

Did people vote to have their freedom of movement restricted in this way?

Most people in London wont have their movement restricted by ULEZ. Doesn't mean it's been done well mind.

[crankedup5]

Lotobear said:

Twitter looks to be a cess pit - PH, and another car forum, is the only social media I do and I only see Twitter from links posted on here and it does not seem to be a good place.

...best avoided IMO

Twitter was recommend to me by along standing PH member as an educational tool. No thanks the place is a open sewer

[bitchstewie]

crankedup5 said:

Twitter was recommend to me by along standing PH member as an educational tool. No thanks the place is a open sewer

It's like most things.

Read stuff from sensible people and it's a useful way of knowing what's going on in the world very very quickly.

Read ste from racist dicks and of course it's a sewer.

I don't honestly think that should come as a surprise

[Randy Winkman]

Exactly. I read stuff on Twitter about air ambulances and RNLI. That's basically it. Other stuff is only there if you look for it. If you dont want it you dont get it.

[rodericb]

sugerbear said:

Catastrophic Poo said:

As said earlier, just a bunch of grotty racists mouthing off.

They’ll be nice as pie to Mr Patel from number 57 down the road though, and love a kebab on a Friday night.

bet they also love an Chicken Tikka Masala as well (and a chicken chow main).

I think it's the perception around appending versus replacing people/society, if you want to go down the "great replacement" rabbit hole. It's human nature to be wary of those who aren't the same as you, and it's human nature that the extent of that varies from individual to individual.

[J4CKO]

I think they are conflating a greater number of people of colour on TV and more consideration to minorities as a sinister plan to replace white people, when really its just companies showing how inclusive they are as every other company is doing it, so they feel they better had, things go in trends and patterns. I personally dont want every advert to be like the 1950s and every TV presenter to be white and speak in RP.

I dont know why they think like that and why being a white majority seems to matter so much to them, whoever breeds the most prolifically becomes the most numerous, and then folk interbreed anyway, so hopefully in time it wont matter as we even out, though religion makes that unlikely in some circumstances.

I dont think we should forget our own culture and identity, but there is more to that than getting insensible on Carling on a sunny afternoon with your beer belly hanging out and a St George Flag draped out of or window.

At the end of the day, its just people, we put the divisions there, then fight over it.