A coalition looks nailed on but who will be the bed partners
A coalition looks nailed on but who will be the bed partners
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allegro

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1,255 posts

224 months

Friday 5th May 2023
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I'm fairly certain the Tories will entertain the idea (it worked well for them last time) but would Labour consider it if it was the only way into power?

Vanden Saab

16,865 posts

94 months

Friday 5th May 2023
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Starmer says no, so it is a nailed on certainty SNP if possible or Lib Dems if a few more votes are needed

ATG

22,658 posts

292 months

Friday 5th May 2023
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There is no way anyone is going to go into a coalition with the Tories. Labour and the Lib Dems might strike a coincidence and supply agreement, if not a formal coalition.

Grumps.

15,476 posts

56 months

Friday 5th May 2023
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Hang on, I thought Labour had this all sewn up?

MaxFromage

2,532 posts

151 months

Friday 5th May 2023
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Grumps. said:
Hang on, I thought Labour had this all sewn up?
The GE is a long way off. First it was a shoe-in, now people are talking about coalitions. Sir Keir is trying his best to lose. All it'll take is a few Tory sweeteners and it'll be all to play for IMO.

paulw123

4,327 posts

210 months

Saturday 6th May 2023
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MaxFromage said:
Grumps. said:
Hang on, I thought Labour had this all sewn up?
The GE is a long way off. First it was a shoe-in, now people are talking about coalitions. Sir Keir is trying his best to lose. All it'll take is a few Tory sweeteners and it'll be all to play for IMO.
Now Rishi has steadied the ship and nobody, even the man himself, knows what labour stands for the gap will close up

anonymous-user

74 months

Sunday 7th May 2023
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paulw123 said:
MaxFromage said:
Grumps. said:
Hang on, I thought Labour had this all sewn up?
The GE is a long way off. First it was a shoe-in, now people are talking about coalitions. Sir Keir is trying his best to lose. All it'll take is a few Tory sweeteners and it'll be all to play for IMO.
Now Rishi has steadied the ship and nobody, even the man himself, knows what labour stands for the gap will close up
Rishi hasn’t steadied the ship
The Tories disasterous result on Thursday, shows the contempt towards them.
Infighting will result.

sociopath

3,433 posts

86 months

Sunday 7th May 2023
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In what universe is a coalition nailed on?
The tories are going to get dumped in the brown stuff from a great height, labour will gain a majority, the snp will implode in a bitter fiht about expenses, motorhomed and independnce, and the greens will lose focus and start knitting socks from quinoa

Venisonpie

4,316 posts

102 months

Sunday 7th May 2023
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https://www.oddschecker.com/politics/british-polit...

If this is any indicator the Tories are toast.

valiant

12,885 posts

180 months

Sunday 7th May 2023
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paulw123 said:
Now Rishi has steadied the ship and nobody, even the man himself, knows what labour stands for the gap will close up
Tories lose 1000+ seats.

Rishi has steadied the ship.

rofl

fat80b

3,109 posts

241 months

Sunday 7th May 2023
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The election is still a long way away if you ask me.

They had to expect a mailing in the locals but the shift from blue to red was not as apparent as they thought it would be. That to me says a lot of folk voted as a protest rather than an actual shift in beliefs.

I would have thought it’s safest to assume we don’t know anything about the GE at this stage and all results are possible.

Ie we know less about Starmers likely manifesto than ever - a lot will depend on what labour decide to say come the time.

Equally, (unlikely I know) if the economy somehow demonstrates a recovery in time for the GE, then that could play in to Rishi’s hands.

I think the only thing we do know about a GE campaign at this stage is that it’s going to be messy..

Caddyshack

13,370 posts

226 months

Sunday 7th May 2023
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valiant said:
paulw123 said:
Now Rishi has steadied the ship and nobody, even the man himself, knows what labour stands for the gap will close up
Tories lose 1000+ seats.

Rishi has steadied the ship.

rofl
I think the poster meany the panic in the economy and then stream of new pm’s and other hiring and firing.


People are unhappy and have lost faith, they think a change of govt will make it all better again, I doubt that is true but for me I think Labour will get in and have a good old spend up to give us 10 yrs of recovery and boom and then a big crash…I hope they have a spend up on the potholed roads.

Randy Winkman

19,989 posts

209 months

Sunday 7th May 2023
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fat80b said:
The election is still a long way away if you ask me.

Ie we know less about Starmers likely manifesto than ever - a lot will depend on what labour decide to say come the time.
I hope it's OK to edit your post but these things are clearly linked. smile

bitchstewie

62,254 posts

230 months

Sunday 7th May 2023
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fat80b said:
The election is still a long way away if you ask me.

They had to expect a mailing in the locals but the shift from blue to red was not as apparent as they thought it would be. That to me says a lot of folk voted as a protest rather than an actual shift in beliefs.

I would have thought it’s safest to assume we don’t know anything about the GE at this stage and all results are possible.

Ie we know less about Starmers likely manifesto than ever - a lot will depend on what labour decide to say come the time.

Equally, (unlikely I know) if the economy somehow demonstrates a recovery in time for the GE, then that could play in to Rishi’s hands.

I think the only thing we do know about a GE campaign at this stage is that it’s going to be messy..
The Conservatives had three things going for them at the last election.
  • Brexit
  • Johnson
  • Corbyn
None of those are factors this time.

You're right it's going to be messy and I have no idea what Starmer stands for but equally I have no idea what Sunak stands for.

I think it will be messy.

brickwall

5,322 posts

230 months

Sunday 7th May 2023
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I think the chance of a Tory majority is under-priced.

But I think a Labour majority is still the most likely outcome. Two factors not talked about enough:
- The Northern “red wall” will swing back to Labour quickly. A lot of those votes were not “pro-Tory”, they were “anti-Corbyn”, and the Conservatives are on very slim majorities.
- Any seats the SNP lose in Scotland will go Labour

Evercross

6,793 posts

84 months

Sunday 7th May 2023
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Vanden Saab said:
so it is a nailed on certainty SNP if possible
Not a chance. The SNP are damaged goods thanks to the lingering odour of financial malpractice. That saga still has some time left to run with the outcome a potential bombshell, what with dodgy last-minute auditors and on-going police investigations.

Cheib

24,806 posts

195 months

Sunday 7th May 2023
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Nothing is “nailed on” politically….e.g. at the last election the Tories won such a big majority there was no way back for Labour at this upcoming election according tot all the experts.

Voting patterns have changed massively in the last ten years…who the hell knows what will happen in the next year,

Fermit

13,240 posts

120 months

Sunday 7th May 2023
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fat80b said:
The election is still a long way away if you ask me
Indeed. 2 years is a long time, for either side to drop any number of clangers to change their fortune.

Stuart70

4,102 posts

203 months

Sunday 7th May 2023
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Current Tory narrative loop to keep the dreams alive…

We will win
We will win but coalition
We won’t lose but Labour might get a coalition.




Lose.

voyds9

8,490 posts

303 months

Sunday 7th May 2023
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I will be voting Reform, not that I think they have a chance but more for the disdain for the other major parties.