Northern Ireland Data breach
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Charlie1986

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2,093 posts

157 months

Tuesday 8th August 2023
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Wow just wow I’ve got friends there in the police force and they are worried about this

DrDeAtH

3,676 posts

254 months

Tuesday 8th August 2023
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Maybe expand on this with a media link...

The PH masses don't all possess a crystal ball

gotoPzero

19,768 posts

211 months

Tuesday 8th August 2023
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Sounds like they did it themselves too. Someone needs a course...

dandarez

13,859 posts

305 months

Tuesday 8th August 2023
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https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/police-servi...

and different unconnected/connected (but timely?) security breach at the EC (Electoral Commission)
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/probe-launch...

abzmike

11,199 posts

128 months

Tuesday 8th August 2023
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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-664...

More best in class data protection… distinctly not trivial given the context.

ellroy

7,722 posts

247 months

Tuesday 8th August 2023
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I can only imagine the absolute horror of the PSNI guys, having worked over there back in the day.

They, and their predecessors of the RUC, do a bloody good job in large part & in some extremely trying circumstances.

Let’s hope it doesn’t cause the kind of problems it could.

Charlie1986

Original Poster:

2,093 posts

157 months

Tuesday 8th August 2023
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ellroy said:
I can only imagine the absolute horror of the PSNI guys, having worked over there back in the day.

They, and their predecessors of the RUC, do a bloody good job in large part & in some extremely trying circumstances.

Let’s hope it doesn’t cause the kind of problems it could.
For sure I’ve worked with them a few times and some good friends made. There worried but hopeful it won’t cause the trouble it could for them

ScotHill

3,857 posts

131 months

Tuesday 8th August 2023
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Summary pivot table where someone forgot to remove the underlying data?

bitchstewie

63,570 posts

232 months

Tuesday 8th August 2023
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That is just stunningly bad yikes

P. ONeill

1,455 posts

74 months

Tuesday 8th August 2023
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ellroy said:
I can only imagine the absolute horror of the PSNI guys, having worked over there back in the day.

They, and their predecessors of the RUC, do a bloody good job in large part & in some extremely trying circumstances.

Let’s hope it doesn’t cause the kind of problems it could.
Yes they did a marvellous job, handing over the details of Republicans and innocent nationalists to loyalist death squads during the 70s/80s/90s. At times the lines between the RUC and those carrying out these murders on behalf of the British state were indistinguishable.

Collusion was not an illusion.

Oliver Hardy

3,096 posts

96 months

Tuesday 8th August 2023
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The data on the police officers was on a web site for two hours!!!!

The spy software on the electoral commission computer was there for a year!!!

Biker 1

8,341 posts

141 months

Wednesday 9th August 2023
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I'm afraid the technical aspects of the PSNI & electoral commission are above my pay grade, but it seems that public service IT schemes are almost all sub par. What do these data breaches actually mean in practice?

BobToc

1,928 posts

139 months

Wednesday 9th August 2023
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This is very bad, but I do kind of suspect that most of this is known to Dissident Republicans anyway?

SS2.

14,676 posts

260 months

Wednesday 9th August 2023
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Biker 1 said:
What do these data breaches actually mean in practice?
Not to trust civil servants with the safeguarding of our data.

Murph7355

40,830 posts

278 months

Wednesday 9th August 2023
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Shocker.

Bad failure of, or very poor process there. Hopefully it won’t cause any serious problems. But I can imagine people are very worried there.

ellroy

7,722 posts

247 months

Wednesday 9th August 2023
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P. ONeill said:
Yes they did a marvellous job, handing over the details of Republicans and innocent nationalists to loyalist death squads during the 70s/80s/90s. At times the lines between the RUC and those carrying out these murders on behalf of the British state were indistinguishable.

Collusion was not an illusion.
Nor were the 312 murdered an illusion.

Unreal

8,703 posts

47 months

Wednesday 9th August 2023
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ellroy said:
P. ONeill said:
Yes they did a marvellous job, handing over the details of Republicans and innocent nationalists to loyalist death squads during the 70s/80s/90s. At times the lines between the RUC and those carrying out these murders on behalf of the British state were indistinguishable.

Collusion was not an illusion.
Nor were the 312 murdered an illusion.
Remind me who killed the majority of people who died during the The Troubles. It was a very dirty conflict. Some people decided that playing by the rules wasn't as effective as playing by the same rules as the other side.

BobToc

1,928 posts

139 months

Wednesday 9th August 2023
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We don’t need to engage in whataboutery. Representatives of the British state acted in ways that were unacceptable and deserve consequences. Acknowledging that doesn’t diminish the evils of republicans and loyalists.

Now, back to that data leak…

S600BSB

7,247 posts

128 months

Wednesday 9th August 2023
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Can't quite believe this. Just terrible.

bigpriest

2,266 posts

152 months

Wednesday 9th August 2023
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Biker 1 said:
I'm afraid the technical aspects of the PSNI & electoral commission are above my pay grade, but it seems that public service IT schemes are almost all sub par. What do these data breaches actually mean in practice?
Bit of a leap isn't it? With that logic then surely all private sector IT schemes are almost all sub par. This particular issue was caused by someone transferring data to an Excel spreadsheet and leaving it in as part of an FoI request. What's surprising is that a summary count of staff by pay/grade is not already published somewhere for the public to access (like an Annual Report) negating the need to complete the FoI Request.