Tax on second hand sales on ebay/ vinted
Tax on second hand sales on ebay/ vinted
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TopTrump

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3,475 posts

196 months

Tuesday 2nd January 2024
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Real vote winner this. If I want to buy a car that needs a lot of work and enjoy it for a few years- when I come to sell it I need to declare it? Is this not going to kill ebay and the like? Am I missing something or is this pretty huge?

worsy

6,445 posts

197 months

Tuesday 2nd January 2024
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Link?

boyse7en

7,913 posts

187 months

Tuesday 2nd January 2024
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TopTrump said:
Real vote winner this. If I want to buy a car that needs a lot of work and enjoy it for a few years- when I come to sell it I need to declare it? Is this not going to kill ebay and the like? Am I missing something or is this pretty huge?
You are missing the bit where it is for "traders" who sell for profit. Intermittent sales of private items are not affected

nickfrog

24,037 posts

239 months

Tuesday 2nd January 2024
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If you're not trading card then you'll be fine, and not CGT either.

The bigger picture seems reasonable as HMRC are trying to catch traders disguised as "private sellers".

silentbrown

10,336 posts

138 months

Tuesday 2nd January 2024
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Wonder if I can claim I'm just an unsuccessful trader and write of my car's depreciation against tax...

Dingu

4,893 posts

52 months

Tuesday 2nd January 2024
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Don’t see a massive issue with this. Although it feels there are bigger fish HMRC could be turning their attention to.

ChemicalChaos

10,703 posts

182 months

Tuesday 2nd January 2024
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Therad discussing the pros and cons here already:

https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...

Skeptisk

8,897 posts

131 months

Tuesday 2nd January 2024
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nickfrog said:
If you're not trading card then you'll be fine, and not CGT either.

The bigger picture seems reasonable as HMRC are trying to catch traders disguised as "private sellers".
But if you are selling to make a profit then most probably you are trading and any income is taxable. Even one transaction can make you a trader, if done with a view to making a profit.

People selling off items they no longer use (at much less than they paid for them new) don’t have to worry.

off_again

13,917 posts

256 months

Tuesday 2nd January 2024
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silentbrown said:
Wonder if I can claim I'm just an unsuccessful trader and write of my car's depreciation against tax...
Now that would be awesome! Given the amount of money I have lost over the years, I would get a fantastic cheque back! I would vote for this!

hehe

Ari

19,751 posts

237 months

Tuesday 2nd January 2024
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Skeptisk said:
But if you are selling to make a profit then most probably you are trading and any income is taxable. Even one transaction can make you a trader, if done with a view to making a profit.
I sold my last car for a profit after values rocketed during covid. Not sure that makes me a trader... smile

princeperch

8,183 posts

269 months

Tuesday 2nd January 2024
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They make a bit of a show and dance about the 1k de minimus trading limit before you have to formalise your tax arrangements but I suspect the reality is that they aren't going to be interested in the slightest/have the rescources for anything less than the 6k turnover they've historically been sending letters out about to Ebay sellers. They can send out all the automated letters they want but they need to have someone to actually read and action them and follow up the ones that don't reply. There would be millions and millions of sellers on ebay and all the other platforms that would need chasing up.

If that has changed then they'll be spending an awful lot on stamps chasing people selling between 1-5k of stuff on ebay et al that don't so a tax return or self declare their income over the de minimus limit. And their 24 members of staff will be busy. Very busy.

That's not to say that things shouldn't be done properly, however, if I was selling 2 or 3 grands worth of stuff on ebay I wouldn't be having many sleepless nights over the new reporting arrangement if I had elected not to do a tax return. It's easier for them to get people to self report their income out of fear than than them actually have any teeth to come after those selling 2 or 3 grands worth of stuff on ebay.