£50 million benefit fraud
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Oliver Hardy

3,096 posts

91 months

Wednesday 10th April 2024
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So taking bets, what will they get as punishment, 6 years, four years served? is my guess.

Al Gorithum

4,673 posts

225 months

Wednesday 10th April 2024
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Where's the money gone?

S600BSB

6,740 posts

123 months

Wednesday 10th April 2024
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It’s been invested for them off-shore by Lord Bamford.

FourWheelDrift

91,195 posts

301 months

Wednesday 10th April 2024
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pocketspring said:
They won't be the only ones. There's said to £11bn lost in benefit fraud.

Hoofy

78,833 posts

299 months

Wednesday 10th April 2024
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Al Gorithum said:
Where's the money gone?
Bulgarian "real estate", I am guessing!

mac96

5,262 posts

160 months

Wednesday 10th April 2024
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Oliver Hardy said:
So taking bets, what will they get as punishment, 6 years, four years served? is my guess.
Hopefully more than that, but £10m each for 4 years in prison sounds like a fair return. Not really a disincentive at all.

FourWheelDrift

91,195 posts

301 months

Wednesday 10th April 2024
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Hoofy said:
Al Gorithum said:
Where's the money gone?
Bulgarian "real estate", I am guessing!
Makes a change from the Romanians I suppose.



Hoofy

78,833 posts

299 months

Wednesday 10th April 2024
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FourWheelDrift said:
Hoofy said:
Al Gorithum said:
Where's the money gone?
Bulgarian "real estate", I am guessing!
Makes a change from the Romanians I suppose.
They're too busy buying cut price used cars. biggrin

fourstardan

5,781 posts

161 months

Wednesday 10th April 2024
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At what amount did they think maybe it was enough to start finding them rather than let them take 50million off the UK tax payer?

Disgraceful.

TheJimi

26,635 posts

260 months

Wednesday 10th April 2024
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This is surely a story of greed.

If my understanding is correct, they must've had enough money passing through their hands at one point to be able to disappear and go legit.

konark

1,200 posts

136 months

Wednesday 10th April 2024
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Weren't we assured that UC was supposed to be more fraud proof than the old system?

Also they were caught in 2021 and are only now up in court. No doubt the lawyers have milked a few more millions in that time.

I wonder how many false claims they put in to bag £50 million. Given a £25,000 benefit cap that's 500 claims for 4 years. DWP werent exactly quick to spot such wholesale fraud were they.

Dingu

4,893 posts

47 months

Wednesday 10th April 2024
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konark said:
Weren't we assured that UC was supposed to be more fraud proof than the old system?

Also they were caught in 2021 and are only now up in court. No doubt the lawyers have milked a few more millions in that time.

I wonder how many false claims they put in to bag £50 million. Given a £25,000 benefit cap that's 500 claims for 4 years. DWP werent exactly quick to spot such wholesale fraud were they.
Quicker than any government dept has found any covid business loan fraud or tory mates PPE fraud.

Oliver Hardy

3,096 posts

91 months

Thursday 11th April 2024
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mac96 said:
Oliver Hardy said:
So taking bets, what will they get as punishment, 6 years, four years served? is my guess.
Hopefully more than that, but £10m each for 4 years in prison sounds like a fair return. Not really a disincentive at all.
Is that all they got, four years? I thought they were not sentenced yet.

They say crime doesn't pay.

Terminator X

18,186 posts

221 months

Thursday 11th April 2024
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"Bulgarian nationals, Galina Nikolova, 38, Stoyan Stoyanov, 27, Tsvetka Todorova, 52, Gyunesh Ali, 33, and Patritsia Paneva, 26, have all pleaded guilty to fraud and money laundering"

Can we not send these people "home" or is that racist?

TX.

fourstardan

5,781 posts

161 months

Thursday 11th April 2024
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Oliver Hardy said:
Is that all they got, four years? I thought they were not sentenced yet.

They say crime doesn't pay.
It'll be soft sentencing no doubt.

I would hope they are deported once out, however they'll all had siphoned the money off and see this soft sentencing as part of the process.

Someone in the pyramid not caught got rich as well.

smifffymoto

5,148 posts

222 months

Thursday 11th April 2024
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I find it ironic that all the big cases of fraud and child grooming etc very rarely/never come from the indigenous population of Great Britain.

Why is it that?

FourWheelDrift

91,195 posts

301 months

Thursday 11th April 2024
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Terminator X said:
"Bulgarian nationals, Galina Nikolova, 38, Stoyan Stoyanov, 27, Tsvetka Todorova, 52, Gyunesh Ali, 33, and Patritsia Paneva, 26, have all pleaded guilty to fraud and money laundering"

Can we not send these people "home" or is that racist?

TX.
Home to their fraud funded expensive big houses they have had built and their extensive car collections. I think that was their plan anyway.

mac96

5,262 posts

160 months

Thursday 11th April 2024
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Oliver Hardy said:
mac96 said:
Oliver Hardy said:
So taking bets, what will they get as punishment, 6 years, four years served? is my guess.
Hopefully more than that, but £10m each for 4 years in prison sounds like a fair return. Not really a disincentive at all.
Is that all they got, four years? I thought they were not sentenced yet.

They say crime doesn't pay.
?? It was your guess not mine!

simon_harris

2,206 posts

51 months

Thursday 11th April 2024
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smifffymoto said:
I find it ironic that all the big cases of fraud and child grooming etc very rarely/never come from the indigenous population of Great Britain.

Why is it that?
that is really not the case though is it...

it is just that THIS one is being highlighted.