Explosion in newcastle

[Saleen836]

Sad loss of a young life, looking at the photos it could have been more

https://news.sky.com/story/boy-7-dies-after-large-...

[dudleybloke]

R.I.P to the young lad.
It looks like theres nothing left of the house.

[pavarotti1980]

Saleen836 said:

Sad loss of a young life, looking at the photos it could have been more

https://news.sky.com/story/boy-7-dies-after-large-...

Mother was a nurse at local hospital and on maternity leave with 8 month old too.

[pavarotti1980]

https://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/news/north-east-news/three-held-suspicion-manslaughter-cannabis-30311011

[vaud]

pavarotti1980 said:

https://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/news/north-east-news/three-held-suspicion-manslaughter-cannabis-30311011

URL fixed:

https://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/news/north-east-ne...

[dudleybloke]

Were they growing or using butane to extract oil?

[pavarotti1980]

vaud said:

URL fixed:

https://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/news/north-east-ne...

[Timothy Bucktu]

Holy moly...that's made an incredible mess!

RIP to the poor lad.

[pavarotti1980]

14 years for manslaughter x 2

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c8e6wggw233o

Also financial impact of displaced residents is likely to hit £3.7m

[BikeBikeBIke]

pavarotti1980 said:

14 years for manslaughter x 2

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c8e6wggw233o

Also financial impact of displaced residents is likely to hit £3.7m

Seems insanely light to me. I thought the most serious manslaughters carried a life sentence. I guess not.

[Chris Peacock]

BikeBikeBIke said:

pavarotti1980 said:

14 years for manslaughter x 2

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c8e6wggw233o

Also financial impact of displaced residents is likely to hit £3.7m

Seems insanely light to me. I thought the most serious manslaughters carried a life sentence. I guess not.

Assuming it's potentially 50% served inside, he could be out before he turns 40. Nowhere near a suitable punishment for the crime IMO.

[Dingu]

Seems unduly lenient. Hopefully referred, no reason why it shouldn’t be life with a minimum.

[ChocolateFrog]

BikeBikeBIke said:

pavarotti1980 said:

14 years for manslaughter x 2

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c8e6wggw233o

Also financial impact of displaced residents is likely to hit £3.7m

Seems insanely light to me. I thought the most serious manslaughters carried a life sentence. I guess not.

How does it make sense that you get minimum 22 years for knocking a scrote off an illegally ridden motorbike but 14 years and out earlier for killing a kid and costing the taxpayer millions while running your drugs business?

[paulw123]

Our joke of a justice system rears its head again. To do this whilst carrying out a illigal operation should have been life.

[Super Sonic]

ChocolateFrog said:

How does it make sense that you get minimum 22 years for knocking a scrote off an illegally ridden motorbike but 14 years and out earlier for killing a kid and costing the taxpayer millions while running your drugs business?

Whilst I agree this seems lenient, the case you are comparing to was deliberate murder.

[QuartzDad]

ChocolateFrog said:

How does it make sense that you get minimum 22 years for knocking a scrote off an illegally ridden motorbike but 14 years and out earlier for killing a kid and costing the taxpayer millions while running your drugs business?

I assume because one was murder and one was manslaughter.

Sentencing remarks for the latter are here https://www.judiciary.uk/wp-content/uploads/2025/0...

Appears that he was sentenced to 17 years which was reduced by 17.5% to 14 years for his guilty plea. He must serve two thirds before he can be considered for release on licence.

[Gareth79]

ChocolateFrog said:

BikeBikeBIke said:

pavarotti1980 said:

14 years for manslaughter x 2

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c8e6wggw233o

Also financial impact of displaced residents is likely to hit £3.7m

Seems insanely light to me. I thought the most serious manslaughters carried a life sentence. I guess not.

How does it make sense that you get minimum 22 years for knocking a scrote off an illegally ridden motorbike but 14 years and out earlier for killing a kid and costing the taxpayer millions while running your drugs business?

Intent. The motorbike offence was prosecuted as murder, because the driver turned around to follow the bikes, searched for and then repeatedly rammed the bike at speed until the rider came off. If it was two vehicles in normal traffic and the car swerved deliberately just to scare a rider who then came off then that might be prosecuted as manslaughter.

In this case, the offender (and accomplice who died) didn't *intend* for anybody to die, they were just reckless. They were probably aware of the risk of a leak/fire/explosion, but either didn't think it significant, or didn't care enough to take steps to prevent it (or simply not cook drugs in a shared building, or at all).

[119]

paulw123 said:

Our joke of a justice system rears its head again. To do this whilst carrying out a illigal operation should have been life.

Couldn't agree more.

[Super Sonic]

119 said:

paulw123 said:

Our joke of a justice system rears its head again. To do this whilst carrying out a illigal operation should have been life.

Couldn't agree more.

Do you think this should apply as a general rule? I.e do you think that anybody who takes a life while breaking the law should get life?

[Dingu]

Super Sonic said:

119 said:

paulw123 said:

Our joke of a justice system rears its head again. To do this whilst carrying out a illigal operation should have been life.

Couldn't agree more.

Do you think this should apply as a general rule? I.e do you think that anybody who takes a life while breaking the law should get life?

Wouldn’t be against it, perhaps not where there isn’t high recklessness -can’t think of examples immediately but there could probably be a threshold to exclude truly unlucky incidents. They could still have a minimum term but then would have to be on licence the rest of their life.