Apple urged to axe AI feature after false BBC headline
Apple urged to axe AI feature after false BBC headline
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272BHP

Original Poster:

6,666 posts

258 months

Thursday 19th December 2024
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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cx2v778x85yo

Have I got this right? The BBC are pushing out unchecked AI generated headlines and a reporters without borders group are suggesting Apple should pull their AI feature?

What kind of cowboy media operation would push out AI headlines unchecked to the public laugh

Expect much more of this in the years to come.

chrispmartha

21,483 posts

151 months

Thursday 19th December 2024
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Think you’re misunderstanding what’s happened to be honest.

But Grrr BBC eh.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cd0elzk24dno

h0b0

8,845 posts

218 months

Thursday 19th December 2024
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272BHP

Original Poster:

6,666 posts

258 months

Thursday 19th December 2024
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So Apple AI is generating the headlines and attributing them to the BBC and then serving that to users?

I haven't seen Apple AI in action as I don't have up to date devices.

Otispunkmeyer

13,526 posts

177 months

Thursday 19th December 2024
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272BHP said:
So Apple AI is generating the headlines and attributing them to the BBC and then serving that to users?

I haven't seen Apple AI in action as I don't have up to date devices.
Think thats the gist. Its summarising the news reports and in this case getting it wildly wrong.

Dave.

7,786 posts

275 months

Thursday 19th December 2024
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Otispunkmeyer said:
Think thats the gist. Its summarising the news reports and in this case getting it wildly wrong.
Wait, what?!

Ai, wrong?

Noooo, can't be!

boyse7en

7,901 posts

187 months

Thursday 19th December 2024
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272BHP said:
So Apple AI is generating the headlines and attributing them to the BBC and then serving that to users?

I haven't seen Apple AI in action as I don't have up to date devices.
There does seem a distinct lack of intelligence, artificial or otherwise, in this whole thing

Mr Penguin

3,933 posts

61 months

Thursday 19th December 2024
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Dave. said:
Wait, what?!

Ai, wrong?

Noooo, can't be!
I use LLMs a lot with very thorough testing, if they are using remotely up to date models then I'm impressed that they managed to write a prompt that hallucinates this badly on something this routine without explicitly telling it to.

Terminator X

19,309 posts

226 months

Thursday 19th December 2024
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Perhaps it should be called Apple Un-Intelligence until such time that it sorts itself out.

TX.

turbobloke

115,323 posts

282 months

Thursday 19th December 2024
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chrispmartha said:
Think you’re misunderstanding what’s happened to be honest.

But Grrr BBC eh.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cd0elzk24dno
They're muppets and their time will come soon enough. Meanwhile the BBC Ministry of Truth missed checking something.

BBC said:
BBC News is the most trusted news media in the world
The BBC trusts itself. Not news. AI means that checks are more important than previously thought. The beeb needs to up its game, though not listening to complaints about inappropriate behaviour from 'talent' will keep it busy.

anonymous-user

76 months

Thursday 19th December 2024
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And yet the world continues to foam at the mouth of the great coming of AI. Even if I hadn't seen Terminator or I Robot I wouldn't want it in my life.

tangerine_sedge

6,111 posts

240 months

Thursday 19th December 2024
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turbobloke said:
chrispmartha said:
Think you’re misunderstanding what’s happened to be honest.

But Grrr BBC eh.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cd0elzk24dno
They're muppets and their time will come soon enough. Meanwhile the BBC Ministry of Truth missed checking something.

BBC said:
BBC News is the most trusted news media in the world
The BBC trusts itself. Not news. AI means that checks are more important than previously thought. The beeb needs to up its game, though not listening to complaints about inappropriate behaviour from 'talent' will keep it busy.
Grrrr BBC. It's a special kind of hatred that makes you think the BBC are the ones at fault here.

anonymous-user

76 months

Thursday 19th December 2024
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MrBig said:
And yet the world continues to foam at the mouth of the great coming of AI. Even if I hadn't seen Terminator or I Robot I wouldn't want it in my life.
Indeed. It seems to hover somewhere between “Lazy” and “Sinister”, I’m not sure what else it’s reliably achieved so far?

News organisation? Employ journalists then. I’m sure someone will be along to explain how it will revolutionise healthcare or whatever else, and that’s great, but I fail to see what it offers wider society in a consumer-level package other than a cheap novelty act and a load of shonky crap like this. Ebay’s utterly dreadful “AI descriptions” are another fine example.

chrispmartha

21,483 posts

151 months

Thursday 19th December 2024
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turbobloke said:
chrispmartha said:
Think you’re misunderstanding what’s happened to be honest.

But Grrr BBC eh.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cd0elzk24dno
They're muppets and their time will come soon enough. Meanwhile the BBC Ministry of Truth missed checking something.

BBC said:
BBC News is the most trusted news media in the world
The BBC trusts itself. Not news. AI means that checks are more important than previously thought. The beeb needs to up its game, though not listening to complaints about inappropriate behaviour from 'talent' will keep it busy.
Another one who doesn't understand what's happened I see.

turbobloke

115,323 posts

282 months

Thursday 19th December 2024
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The BBC is ultimately responsible for what goes out on their website, unless they add a prominent rider usually reserved for third party websites linked from a BBC webpage. That would not only be unusual, but inapplicable if it's about actual beeb content, under a beeb label i.e. headline / narrative. It may be onerous to check, but that's life at the home of the Ministry of Truth. Verily Verify! Not checking risks the self-proclaimed paragon of virtue looking like it's an amateur outfit. The BBC is hopeless, they can't act appropriately with important information about 'talent' from Savile to Hall to Edwards and points in between, and can't act appropriately with web content.

turbobloke

115,323 posts

282 months

Thursday 19th December 2024
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272BHP said:
What kind of cowboy media operation would push out AI headlines unchecked to the public laugh
The BBC, naturally.

InitialDave

14,237 posts

141 months

Thursday 19th December 2024
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turbobloke said:
The BBC is ultimately responsible for what goes out on their website,
Unless I'm being stupendously thick here, the BBC are in no way at fault for this?

The BBC published an article, which was correct.

An Apple service used AI to summarise the article, the summary stating something completely different to what the article said, and then presented it to users as if it were by the BBC.

Is that correct?

Wills2

27,851 posts

197 months

Thursday 19th December 2024
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272BHP said:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cx2v778x85yo

Have I got this right? The BBC are pushing out unchecked AI generated headlines and a reporters without borders group are suggesting Apple should pull their AI feature?

What kind of cowboy media operation would push out AI headlines unchecked to the public laugh

Expect much more of this in the years to come.
With such a confused and inaccurate summary of what happened, you seem to be way ahead of AI in terms of pushing unchecked drivel on to the internet.



foreright

1,077 posts

264 months

Thursday 19th December 2024
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InitialDave said:
Unless I'm being stupendously thick here, the BBC are in no way at fault for this?

The BBC published an article, which was correct.

An Apple service used AI to summarise the article, the summary stating something completely different to what the article said, and then presented it to users as if it were by the BBC.

Is that correct?
This is my understanding too - as much as I'm not particularly a fan of the Beeb, this is not their fault!

h0b0

8,845 posts

218 months

Thursday 19th December 2024
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When AI produces incorrect, or misleading responses it is "hallucinating" hence the image I posted earlier. The AI hallucination, in this case. was suggesting the BBC wrote something they did not.