Women taking over the workplace

[Skeptisk]

I’ve just see some interesting information on gender pay gap for one of the big four.

At senior manager level women earn a fraction less than men (I suspect that figure is influenced by old, male career senior managers). However for all grades below women earn slightly more than their male counterparts.

The percentage of women promoted in 2024 was higher than the percentage of men. Moreover, for all grades below director there were more women than men. There are still a higher number of male partners but with roughly 60% of staff at senior manager and below being women then in 10 to 20 years that is bound to reverse.

Rather than having women’s networks do we now need men’s networks?

I wonder how many other industries are seeing the same. I suspect law would be similar.

[S600BSB]

Good for them.

[Gecko1978]

S600BSB said:

Good for them.

Hopefully we are moving to a world where merrit is the deciding factor.

Both my managers are women. Really couldn't careless what sex my boss is

[Terminator X]

Almost there then



TX.

[Louis Balfour]

Gecko1978 said:

S600BSB said:

Good for them.

Hopefully we are moving to a world where merrit is the deciding factor.

We seem to be in an interventionist one, where gender is deemed more important than merit. Because balance or something.

[WestyCarl]

Skeptisk said:

I’ve just see some interesting information on gender pay gap for one of the big four.

At senior manager level women earn a fraction less than men (I suspect that figure is influenced by old, male career senior managers). However for all grades below women earn slightly more than their male counterparts.

The percentage of women promoted in 2024 was higher than the percentage of men. Moreover, for all grades below director there were more women than men. There are still a higher number of male partners but with roughly 60% of staff at senior manager and below being women then in 10 to 20 years that is bound to reverse.

Rather than having women’s networks do we now need men’s networks?

I wonder how many other industries are seeing the same. I suspect law would be similar.

And your point is.......?

At work I am with other "colleagues", their gender (or nationalilty, or...) makes no differance to me.

[ChevronB19]

I don’t care, so long as they are good at their job.

[s1962a]

I fail to see the issue. Just work harder / get promoted if you want to earn more than your colleagues, regardless of gender.

[Drumroll]

Louis Balfour said:

Gecko1978 said:

S600BSB said:

Good for them.

Hopefully we are moving to a world where merrit is the deciding factor.

We seem to be in an interventionist one, where gender is deemed more important than merit. Because balance or something.

Any proof of this or is it just your own gender bias coming out?

[Dingu]

Drumroll said:

Louis Balfour said:

Gecko1978 said:

S600BSB said:

Good for them.

Hopefully we are moving to a world where merrit is the deciding factor.

We seem to be in an interventionist one, where gender is deemed more important than merit. Because balance or something.

Any proof of this or is it just your own gender bias coming out?

The latter. He has form.

[Bo_apex]

Gecko1978 said:

S600BSB said:

Good for them.

Hopefully we are moving to a world where merrit is the deciding factor.

Both my managers are women. Really couldn't careless what sex my boss is

^^this^^

[XCP]

Some of us have spent our whole lives being told what to do by women.

[Drumroll]

XCP said:

Some of us have spent our whole lives being told what to do by women.

I hear there are places where they actually get paid to do it as well.

Edited by Drumroll on Thursday 9th January 17:07

[Mr Whippy]

WestyCarl said:

Skeptisk said:

I’ve just see some interesting information on gender pay gap for one of the big four.

At senior manager level women earn a fraction less than men (I suspect that figure is influenced by old, male career senior managers). However for all grades below women earn slightly more than their male counterparts.

The percentage of women promoted in 2024 was higher than the percentage of men. Moreover, for all grades below director there were more women than men. There are still a higher number of male partners but with roughly 60% of staff at senior manager and below being women then in 10 to 20 years that is bound to reverse.

Rather than having women’s networks do we now need men’s networks?

I wonder how many other industries are seeing the same. I suspect law would be similar.

And your point is.......?

At work I am with other "colleagues", their gender (or nationalilty, or...) makes no differance to me.

And your point is? Seriously?

That’s EXACTLY why we’re here after years of whinging about equality.
And now it’s not equal the other way… and now we do what we’d done for decades and pretend it’s not an issue.


You can’t have it both ways. Either we monitor and police it, or we don’t.

[cliffords]

My sister recently booked her car in for some repairs at a garage in London who claim to be London's first all female garage.
When my sister called in to discuss her car , the female boss and her female partner, apologised to my sister that there were two men working there and explained they were disappointed they had to employ men .

I am recounting what happened, before someone assumes something about me or my views.

[BikeBikeBIke]

Not sure this is news. Women have always earned more on average than men right up until child rearing age when they quit the workplace because they'd rather spend time with their kids.

[Rusty Old-Banger]

I have not long got back from a day on site. No women there yet. Just male kerb-layers, male steel-fixers, male machine drivers, male drain jetters, male labourers, male traffic management gangs, and banksmen. There is no stipulation in any of the job descriptions that they HAVE to be male. So my experience does not match that of the OP - they're not even present, let alone anywhere near "taking over".

[Skeptisk]

WestyCarl said:

And your point is.......?

At work I am with other "colleagues", their gender (or nationalilty, or...) makes no differance to me.

I think it is a bit ironic that we still have women’s networks and lots of effort to promote women (in my industry) when in fact there has not been any real bias against women for a few years (I’ve have and had plenty of female bosses ) and the figures suggest that we now have an inequality in the other direction such that we maybe should be putting into place programs to attract and retain more men.

[BikeBikeBIke]

Rusty Old-Banger said:

I have not long got back from a day on site. No women there yet. Just male kerb-layers, male steel-fixers, male machine drivers, male drain jetters, male labourers, male traffic management gangs, and banksmen. There is no stipulation in any of the job descriptions that they HAVE to be male. So my experience does not match that of the OP - they're not even present, let alone anywhere near "taking over".

Lazy cows need to step up.

[Antony Moxey]

‘Big four’ what?