Proof that Labour want mass immigration
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Labour immigration law will remove the clause that people who arrive here illegally will never be granted citizenship. They are also scrapping age verification tests, so the prospect of 25 year old immigrants who claim to be children being in our schools is a real one. Their failure to attempt to reduce immigration is treasonous, in my opinion.
Rufus Stone said:
Oh joy, another immigration thread.
Some people think immigration is important, and it's a measure that will result in a huge draw for illegal immigrants, removing any deterrent because they know they only have to come and they will likely get a British passport at some point. Worth mentioning, I would have thought.lornemalvo said:
Some people think immigration is important, and it's a measure that will result in a huge draw for illegal immigrants,[b] removing any deterrent [/URL]because they know they only have to come and they will likely get a British passport at some point. Worth mentioning, I would have thought.
And how well did that "deterrent" work?...checks immigration stats...
Oh yeah
Treason? Pfft.
valiant said:
Treason?
Get a grip.
Maybe a bit strong, I agree, but completely ignoring the will of the majority of British people, breaking promises, not putting the interests, safety and security of the British people first etc. Norway went down the same path as the UK and deeply regret it now. It's the closest description I could come up with.Get a grip.
Ian Geary said:
lornemalvo said:
Some people think immigration is important, and it's a measure that will result in a huge draw for illegal immigrants,[b] removing any deterrent [/URL]because they know they only have to come and they will likely get a British passport at some point. Worth mentioning, I would have thought.
And how well did that "deterrent" work?...checks immigration stats...
Oh yeah
Treason? Pfft.
lornemalvo said:
Labour immigration law will remove the clause that people who arrive here illegally will never be granted citizenship. They are also scrapping age verification tests, so the prospect of 25 year old immigrants who claim to be children being in our schools is a real one. Their failure to attempt to reduce immigration is treasonous, in my opinion.
You got any links to the specifics of this? Because it's historically been perfectly possible to be here illegally, then regularise yourself and eventually become British. Also do you mean enter illegally, or arrive irregularly? And are they scrapping specific age verification tests, or the process of age verification? It's up to councils to determine who goes to schools, not the Home Office, nothing in the immigration space would change that. The whole 25 year old nonsense reeks of scaremongering.
Immigration isn't a bad thing as long as you vett the person wishing to come into the country.
There would appear to be far too many arriving just to gain free accommodation, food, benefits with little or no interest in integration with the British people but rather form gangs and little enclaves of criminals and anti British bodies.
There seems to be so many people living in the UK who are anti-UK.
Sadly we seem to have accepted the cancer into the body of the UK with little or no antidote.
As above, Norway, Sweden, France and Germany are all now suffering the effects of anti-social immigration.
And the present government now appear to have capitulated completely despite promised to stem the flow.
Yet another broken promise.
There would appear to be far too many arriving just to gain free accommodation, food, benefits with little or no interest in integration with the British people but rather form gangs and little enclaves of criminals and anti British bodies.
There seems to be so many people living in the UK who are anti-UK.
Sadly we seem to have accepted the cancer into the body of the UK with little or no antidote.
As above, Norway, Sweden, France and Germany are all now suffering the effects of anti-social immigration.
And the present government now appear to have capitulated completely despite promised to stem the flow.
Yet another broken promise.
lornemalvo said:
Rufus Stone said:
Oh joy, another immigration thread.
Some people think immigration is important, and it's a measure that will result in a huge draw for illegal immigrants, removing any deterrent because they know they only have to come and they will likely get a British passport at some point. Worth mentioning, I would have thought.lornemalvo said:
valiant said:
Treason?
Get a grip.
Maybe a bit strong, I agree, but completely ignoring the will of the majority of British people, breaking promises, not putting the interests, safety and security of the British people first etc. Norway went down the same path as the UK and deeply regret it now. It's the closest description I could come up with.Get a grip.
Granted, a general election is not a single-issue vote of course, but the will of the British people was upheld.
Brexit, though not a referendum on immigration per se, offered a chance for us to control immigration. Which we now largely have.
We've gone from 20/30% control of immigration to 90%.
I tend to look at this problem solely from an economic perspective.
If you do that and consider the negative balance of tax revenue generated to public services consumed by the majority of economic migrants (initially terrible; horrendous for the dependents (i.e. dependents of a dependent of the state) that then follow), then the situation is - even just from an economic perspective - frankly terrifying.
Maybe that it why there is such a push to rejoin the EU. Leaving clearly had no effect on our leaders' willingness to control (note: not close) our borders, which is the reason why most people who voted for Brexit did so and, with our economy now so permanently f
ked, we will need someone to bail us out at some point in the next couple of decades.
Anyway, this latest shift was signposted a few months back. Did anyone notice when Starmer stopped using the word "migrants" and started calling them "irregular migrants?" Clearly, we "solve" the problem by regularising them through the gifting of a passport. Problem solved. From our leaders' perspective, at least.
If you do that and consider the negative balance of tax revenue generated to public services consumed by the majority of economic migrants (initially terrible; horrendous for the dependents (i.e. dependents of a dependent of the state) that then follow), then the situation is - even just from an economic perspective - frankly terrifying.
Maybe that it why there is such a push to rejoin the EU. Leaving clearly had no effect on our leaders' willingness to control (note: not close) our borders, which is the reason why most people who voted for Brexit did so and, with our economy now so permanently f
ked, we will need someone to bail us out at some point in the next couple of decades. Anyway, this latest shift was signposted a few months back. Did anyone notice when Starmer stopped using the word "migrants" and started calling them "irregular migrants?" Clearly, we "solve" the problem by regularising them through the gifting of a passport. Problem solved. From our leaders' perspective, at least.
bhstewie said:
hstewie said: Just use a paywall remover.
GB News have a similar article but you did say grown up
I held my nose and read the GB News article. It's a load of overblown nonsense. The illegal entry thing just takes us back to how things were until 2023, removing something that would have had no impact until 2033 and would almost certainly have been unenforceable then, and if it did work would just have damaged integration without actually doing anything for numbers. GB News have a similar article but you did say grown up
Leaving people unable to settle indefinitely used to be fairly common, but it's just performative because if you can't remove them you're far better off getting them integrated (as someone mentioned above) and not leaving them in limbo. Quite a lot of the "asylum seeker does something heinous" stories turn out to be about people left in extended limbo.
The age check thing that's supposedly been scrapped hadn't even been implemented.
Usual disingenuous reporting parroted by the usual useful idiots on here.
lornemalvo said:
Labour immigration law will remove the clause that people who arrive here illegally will never be granted citizenship. They are also scrapping age verification tests, so the prospect of 25 year old immigrants who claim to be children being in our schools is a real one. Their failure to attempt to reduce immigration is treasonous, in my opinion.
Just out of interest, as I haven’t heard this, could you point out where in the (I assume proposed) law it says this? Or is that just ‘your opinion’?As for ‘treason’, don’t be daft.
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