Tony Martin dead at 80

[Gecko1978]

BBC News - Tony Martin, who killed burglar at farmhouse, dies
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c0rq4evqq75o

I saw the last documentary on this he had zero remorse

[Getragdogleg]

Always felt sorry for him, if thieving bds had kept their thieving mitts off his stuff thieving bds would be alive today.

Before the usual pH handwringers pile in and say "no stuff is worth a life" I agree, but he was relentlessly stolen from and had had enough.

Everyone has a limit to what they will put up with or tolerate. His was reached and the police failed to help at all.

[ChocolateFrog]

Gecko1978 said:

BBC News - Tony Martin, who killed burglar at farmhouse, dies
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c0rq4evqq75o

I saw the last documentary on this he had zero remorse

And neither would I. He wasn't the one playing silly games.

[Hoofy]

RIP.

[Dan_1981]

Poor bloke.

I don't care about the whole, laying in waiting.

Shot them in the back. Etc.

Anyone who has been burgled will understand the impact of knowing someone has been in your property, taking your things.

The fear it creates, the anger.

I'd still shoot the bds who burgled us and that's ten years ago.

[boxst]

America is an interesting country. One of (the few) things I agree with is that if you enter my property you deserve what you get and lose all or at least most of your rights.

[ChocolateFrog]

Dan_1981 said:

Poor bloke.

I don't care about the whole, laying in waiting.

Shot them in the back. Etc.

Anyone who has been burgled will understand the impact of knowing someone has been in your property, taking your things.

The fear it creates, the anger.

I'd still shoot the bds who burgled us and that's ten years ago.

100%.

Been burgled 6 times, the police do nothing.

[I-am-the-reverend]

He certainly stuck to his guns.


Fair play to him - a pity he didn't do both of them. Yes, I've been on the recieving end of the thievery from those Newark sorts.

[JuanCarlosFandango]

RIP. Treated appallingly for defending himself and his property.

[Gecko1978]

I was interested what became of the man that left his friend to die. Seems he continues to be a petty thief. So really he never learned. The lad that died did so because of his own actions but I would lay blame at the older man who tool a child on a burglary.

[nordboy]

From what I've heard from people who have had dealings with TM, he had plenty of previous 'incidents' so the whole shooting saga wasn't entirely unexpected from him.

Not at all absolving the little burglar stbags mind you.

[Wilmslowboy]

I went to see a farm for sale the other week (probate sale), there was steel doors strategically placed through out the house (bottom of the stairs, a couple of the bedroom, office etc).

When I asked the estate agent why, he said the elderly couple who lived there, and been robbed and supposedly it had really shaken them badly.

It made me think of TM incidence.

[Dan_1981]

Gecko1978 said:

I was interested what became of the man that left his friend to die. Seems he continues to be a petty thief. So really he never learned. The lad that died did so because of his own actions but I would lay blame at the older man who tool a child on a burglary.

A child with 29 prior convictions.

[JuanCarlosFandango]

Dan_1981 said:

Gecko1978 said:

I was interested what became of the man that left his friend to die. Seems he continues to be a petty thief. So really he never learned. The lad that died did so because of his own actions but I would lay blame at the older man who tool a child on a burglary.

A child with 29 prior convictions.

But none since!

[sugerbear]

Wilmslowboy said:

I went to see a farm for sale the other week (probate sale), there was steel doors strategically placed through out the house (bottom of the stairs, a couple of the bedroom, office etc).

When I asked the estate agent why, he said the elderly couple who lived there, and been robbed and supposedly it had really shaken them badly.

It made me think of TM incidence.

There is a “cost” to living in the arse end of nowhere. Cant expect the police to be stationed outside of your house 24x7 and you have no right to own a gun for self defence.

The hard answer is to sell up and move because there will always be people looking for an easy target.

[Lefty]

boxst said:

America is an interesting country. One of (the few) things I agree with is that if you enter my property you deserve what you get and lose all or at least most of your rights.

Agreed

[ChocolateFrog]

JuanCarlosFandango said:

Dan_1981 said:

Gecko1978 said:

I was interested what became of the man that left his friend to die. Seems he continues to be a petty thief. So really he never learned. The lad that died did so because of his own actions but I would lay blame at the older man who tool a child on a burglary.

A child with 29 prior convictions.

But none since!

A dose of leadicillin and he was cured.

[MrBogSmith]

It’s a complicated one.

Understandably people don’t have too much sympathy with criminals in someone’s home.

The issues is to make what he did acceptable how do you go about changing the law to make sure it doesn’t have unintended consequences.

For example, as someone suggested about making pretty much anything fair game in one’s home.

That’d make it a lot easier to trick someone / invitee someone around then kill them. Or kill someone who’d made a mistake, or someone you mistake for a burglar etc.

The law was actually changed to give householders greater protection so those who supported Martin can see that as a win.

[fly by wire]

Gecko1978 said:

I was interested what became of the man that left his friend to die. Seems he continues to be a petty thief. So really he never learned. The lad that died did so because of his own actions but I would lay blame at the older man who tool a child on a burglary.

Brendan Fearon.

Didn't he get a chunk of compo for being wounded ?

[and31]

It’s a shame he only managed to kill one burglar.As soon as you step outside the law you should be offered no protection by the law.
Shot them in the back? Oh well, don’t go robbing and you won’t get shot ….