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Yet again let off lightly this individual has no respect for driving laws his complete disregard for speed limits time and time again and the cowardly courts go along with his pathetic reasoning.
I fully accept he has every right to mitigate but what does it take before some decent ban is imposed ….. killing someone……
Sorry guys I couldn’t get the BBC news link to work if some kind soul on here could oblige….
I fully accept he has every right to mitigate but what does it take before some decent ban is imposed ….. killing someone……
Sorry guys I couldn’t get the BBC news link to work if some kind soul on here could oblige….
Big Rat said:
Yet again let off lightly this individual has no respect for driving laws his complete disregard for speed limits time and time again and the cowardly courts go along with his pathetic reasoning.
I fully accept he has every right to mitigate but what does it take before some decent ban is imposed ….. killing someone……
Sorry guys I couldn’t get the BBC news link to work if some kind soul on here could oblige….
5 penalty points & £3,590 fine for only 97mph on a motorway seems a sufficiently large punishment.I fully accept he has every right to mitigate but what does it take before some decent ban is imposed ….. killing someone……
Sorry guys I couldn’t get the BBC news link to work if some kind soul on here could oblige….
Big Rat said:
Yet again let off lightly this individual has no respect for driving laws his complete disregard for speed limits time and time again and the cowardly courts go along with his pathetic reasoning.
I fully accept he has every right to mitigate but what does it take before some decent ban is imposed ….. killing someone……
Sorry guys I couldn’t get the BBC news link to work if some kind soul on here could oblige….
Crash! Bang! Wallop!I fully accept he has every right to mitigate but what does it take before some decent ban is imposed ….. killing someone……
Sorry guys I couldn’t get the BBC news link to work if some kind soul on here could oblige….
Look at this maniac doing 97mph on a motorway, he must be a maniac with a deathwish /sarcasm
Sometimes I have to check the url to make sure I'm still on Pistonheads...
tangerine_sedge said:
Big Rat said:
Yet again let off lightly this individual has no respect for driving laws his complete disregard for speed limits time and time again and the cowardly courts go along with his pathetic reasoning.
I fully accept he has every right to mitigate but what does it take before some decent ban is imposed ….. killing someone……
Sorry guys I couldn’t get the BBC news link to work if some kind soul on here could oblige….
Crash! Bang! Wallop!I fully accept he has every right to mitigate but what does it take before some decent ban is imposed ….. killing someone……
Sorry guys I couldn’t get the BBC news link to work if some kind soul on here could oblige….
Look at this maniac doing 97mph on a motorway, he must be a maniac with a deathwish /sarcasm
Sometimes I have to check the url to make sure I'm still on Pistonheads...
Big Rat said:
Yet again let off lightly this individual has no respect for driving laws his complete disregard for speed limits time and time again and the cowardly courts go along with his pathetic reasoning.
I fully accept he has every right to mitigate but what does it take before some decent ban is imposed ….. killing someone……
Sorry guys I couldn’t get the BBC news link to work if some kind soul on here could oblige….
Rubbish, he either got given given a straight 2 month ban, although unlikely because the magistrates guidlines are not to give short bans in place of points if it would prevent a 6 month totting ban being triggered, or he recieved 6 points and his brief successfully argued an exeptional hardhip plea and got the 6 month totting ban reduced to 2. No different treatment to thousands of others who have used the same plea.I fully accept he has every right to mitigate but what does it take before some decent ban is imposed ….. killing someone……
Sorry guys I couldn’t get the BBC news link to work if some kind soul on here could oblige….
Big Rat said:
Yet again let off lightly this individual has no respect for driving laws his complete disregard for speed limits time and time again and the cowardly courts go along with his pathetic reasoning.
I fully accept he has every right to mitigate but what does it take before some decent ban is imposed ….. killing someone……
Sorry guys I couldn’t get the BBC news link to work if some kind soul on here could oblige….
I think you might be suffering from minor women’s whiplash. I fully accept he has every right to mitigate but what does it take before some decent ban is imposed ….. killing someone……
Sorry guys I couldn’t get the BBC news link to work if some kind soul on here could oblige….
Sentencing guidelines for 97mph on a motorway are for 4-6 points or a 7-28 day ban - usually the former. 5 points is squarely in the middle of that.
https://www.sentencingcouncil.org.uk/offences/magi...
The fine will be partly based on his (presumably high) income, but it cannot be more than £2500, which is the maximum for speeding on a motorway.
2 mph slower and it would never have got to court - he's have got a standard fixed penalty (3 points and £100).
He hasn't been let off lightly by a cowardly court - he's been treated pretty much the same as anybody else doing 97mph on a motorway would have been. It's a bit of a non-story.
(The BBC report send to say that he got 5 points and a2 month ban for the same offense, which is obviously not true. The Evening Standard report that it refers to just says 5 points, which is presumably correct.)
https://www.sentencingcouncil.org.uk/offences/magi...
The fine will be partly based on his (presumably high) income, but it cannot be more than £2500, which is the maximum for speeding on a motorway.
2 mph slower and it would never have got to court - he's have got a standard fixed penalty (3 points and £100).
He hasn't been let off lightly by a cowardly court - he's been treated pretty much the same as anybody else doing 97mph on a motorway would have been. It's a bit of a non-story.
(The BBC report send to say that he got 5 points and a2 month ban for the same offense, which is obviously not true. The Evening Standard report that it refers to just says 5 points, which is presumably correct.)
martinbiz said:
Rubbish, he either got given given a straight 2 month ban, although unlikely because the magistrates guidlines are not to give short bans in place of points if it would prevent a 6 month totting ban being triggered, or he recieved 6 points and his brief successfully argued an exeptional hardhip plea and got the 6 month totting ban reduced to 2. No different treatment to thousands of others who have used the same plea.
He was on six points and wrote to the court pleading that it would cause hardship to the film crew if he got a six points and a six month totting up ban. He was given a £2,500 fine, £90 costs and a £1,000 victim surcharge and a two month ban - and five points.
otolith said:
martinbiz said:
Rubbish, he either got given given a straight 2 month ban, although unlikely because the magistrates guidlines are not to give short bans in place of points if it would prevent a 6 month totting ban being triggered, or he recieved 6 points and his brief successfully argued an exeptional hardhip plea and got the 6 month totting ban reduced to 2. No different treatment to thousands of others who have used the same plea.
He was on six points and wrote to the court pleading that it would cause hardship to the film crew if he got a six points and a six month totting up ban. He was given a £2,500 fine, £90 costs and a £1,000 victim surcharge and a two month ban - and five points.
Edited by martinbiz on Thursday 6th February 19:01
otolith said:
(Guardian and BBC say fine, 5 points, short ban - presumably a correction will be coming if they're wrong about the ban)
The BBC report seems to be lifted from an Evening Standard article. The Evening Standard article just says that he got 5 points, then goes on to mention that he previously got a 2 month ban in 2019. Whoever wrote the BBC report has got the two incidents conflated.otolith said:
This is, however, the third time in nine years that he has been banned for a short period, he doesn't seem to be getting the message.
Well, shock horror, I do the same and have not been caught in years and have never had more than 3 pts on my licence.Steve just must not be as clever as me in knowing where the scameras are

Mandat said:
… £3,590 fine for only 97mph on a motorway seems a sufficiently large punishment.
That’s more than the maximum fine, so that didn’t happen.What actually happened:
Fine £2500
Victim surcharge £1000
Prosecution costs £90
Total £3590
The sentence appears to be wrong in principle as no credit was given for his guilty plea!
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