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Big Rat

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372 posts

60 months

Thursday 6th February
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Yet again let off lightly this individual has no respect for driving laws his complete disregard for speed limits time and time again and the cowardly courts go along with his pathetic reasoning.
I fully accept he has every right to mitigate but what does it take before some decent ban is imposed ….. killing someone……

Sorry guys I couldn’t get the BBC news link to work if some kind soul on here could oblige….

otolith

61,258 posts

218 months

Mandat

4,218 posts

252 months

Thursday 6th February
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Big Rat said:
Yet again let off lightly this individual has no respect for driving laws his complete disregard for speed limits time and time again and the cowardly courts go along with his pathetic reasoning.
I fully accept he has every right to mitigate but what does it take before some decent ban is imposed ….. killing someone……

Sorry guys I couldn’t get the BBC news link to work if some kind soul on here could oblige….
5 penalty points & £3,590 fine for only 97mph on a motorway seems a sufficiently large punishment.

John D.

19,202 posts

223 months

Thursday 6th February
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97mph on the M6. I'm shocked. What an outrage.

tangerine_sedge

5,712 posts

232 months

Thursday 6th February
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Big Rat said:
Yet again let off lightly this individual has no respect for driving laws his complete disregard for speed limits time and time again and the cowardly courts go along with his pathetic reasoning.
I fully accept he has every right to mitigate but what does it take before some decent ban is imposed ….. killing someone……

Sorry guys I couldn’t get the BBC news link to work if some kind soul on here could oblige….
Crash! Bang! Wallop!

Look at this maniac doing 97mph on a motorway, he must be a maniac with a deathwish /sarcasm

Sometimes I have to check the url to make sure I'm still on Pistonheads...

otolith

61,258 posts

218 months

Thursday 6th February
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This is, however, the third time in nine years that he has been banned for a short period, he doesn't seem to be getting the message.

chrispmartha

18,807 posts

143 months

Thursday 6th February
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simon_harris

2,079 posts

48 months

Thursday 6th February
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tangerine_sedge said:
Big Rat said:
Yet again let off lightly this individual has no respect for driving laws his complete disregard for speed limits time and time again and the cowardly courts go along with his pathetic reasoning.
I fully accept he has every right to mitigate but what does it take before some decent ban is imposed ….. killing someone……

Sorry guys I couldn’t get the BBC news link to work if some kind soul on here could oblige….
Crash! Bang! Wallop!

Look at this maniac doing 97mph on a motorway, he must be a maniac with a deathwish /sarcasm

Sometimes I have to check the url to make sure I'm still on Pistonheads...
It is amazing he is still alive, surely everyone else on the motorway at the same time died from sheer shock and horror

martinbiz

3,574 posts

159 months

Thursday 6th February
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Big Rat said:
Yet again let off lightly this individual has no respect for driving laws his complete disregard for speed limits time and time again and the cowardly courts go along with his pathetic reasoning.
I fully accept he has every right to mitigate but what does it take before some decent ban is imposed ….. killing someone……

Sorry guys I couldn’t get the BBC news link to work if some kind soul on here could oblige….
Rubbish, he either got given given a straight 2 month ban, although unlikely because the magistrates guidlines are not to give short bans in place of points if it would prevent a 6 month totting ban being triggered, or he recieved 6 points and his brief successfully argued an exeptional hardhip plea and got the 6 month totting ban reduced to 2. No different treatment to thousands of others who have used the same plea.

miniman

28,010 posts

276 months

Thursday 6th February
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Big Rat said:
Yet again let off lightly this individual has no respect for driving laws his complete disregard for speed limits time and time again and the cowardly courts go along with his pathetic reasoning.
I fully accept he has every right to mitigate but what does it take before some decent ban is imposed ….. killing someone……

Sorry guys I couldn’t get the BBC news link to work if some kind soul on here could oblige….
I think you might be suffering from minor women’s whiplash.

menguin

3,779 posts

235 months

Thursday 6th February
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otolith said:
This is, however, the third time in nine years that he has been banned for a short period, he doesn't seem to be getting the message.
Seems fairly likely he's comfortable with the bans considering he's had so many

martinbiz

3,574 posts

159 months

Thursday 6th February
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Mandat said:
5 penalty points & £3,590 fine for only 97mph on a motorway seems a sufficiently large punishment.
The fine is income related up to a maximum of £2,500 on a motorway which is what was imposed

Aretnap

1,844 posts

165 months

Thursday 6th February
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Sentencing guidelines for 97mph on a motorway are for 4-6 points or a 7-28 day ban - usually the former. 5 points is squarely in the middle of that.

https://www.sentencingcouncil.org.uk/offences/magi...

The fine will be partly based on his (presumably high) income, but it cannot be more than £2500, which is the maximum for speeding on a motorway.

2 mph slower and it would never have got to court - he's have got a standard fixed penalty (3 points and £100).

He hasn't been let off lightly by a cowardly court - he's been treated pretty much the same as anybody else doing 97mph on a motorway would have been. It's a bit of a non-story.

(The BBC report send to say that he got 5 points and a2 month ban for the same offense, which is obviously not true. The Evening Standard report that it refers to just says 5 points, which is presumably correct.)



otolith

61,258 posts

218 months

Thursday 6th February
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martinbiz said:
Rubbish, he either got given given a straight 2 month ban, although unlikely because the magistrates guidlines are not to give short bans in place of points if it would prevent a 6 month totting ban being triggered, or he recieved 6 points and his brief successfully argued an exeptional hardhip plea and got the 6 month totting ban reduced to 2. No different treatment to thousands of others who have used the same plea.
He was on six points and wrote to the court pleading that it would cause hardship to the film crew if he got a six points and a six month totting up ban.

He was given a £2,500 fine, £90 costs and a £1,000 victim surcharge and a two month ban - and five points.

otolith

61,258 posts

218 months

Thursday 6th February
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(Guardian and BBC say fine, 5 points, short ban - presumably a correction will be coming if they're wrong about the ban)

martinbiz

3,574 posts

159 months

Thursday 6th February
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otolith said:
martinbiz said:
Rubbish, he either got given given a straight 2 month ban, although unlikely because the magistrates guidlines are not to give short bans in place of points if it would prevent a 6 month totting ban being triggered, or he recieved 6 points and his brief successfully argued an exeptional hardhip plea and got the 6 month totting ban reduced to 2. No different treatment to thousands of others who have used the same plea.
He was on six points and wrote to the court pleading that it would cause hardship to the film crew if he got a six points and a six month totting up ban.

He was given a £2,500 fine, £90 costs and a £1,000 victim surcharge and a two month ban - and five points.
Yes, I gave the 2 possible scenarios above, it would seem he was succesful in arguing the second one, so not sure of your point

Edited by martinbiz on Thursday 6th February 19:01

Aretnap

1,844 posts

165 months

Thursday 6th February
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otolith said:
(Guardian and BBC say fine, 5 points, short ban - presumably a correction will be coming if they're wrong about the ban)
The BBC report seems to be lifted from an Evening Standard article. The Evening Standard article just says that he got 5 points, then goes on to mention that he previously got a 2 month ban in 2019. Whoever wrote the BBC report has got the two incidents conflated.

croyde

24,709 posts

244 months

Thursday 6th February
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otolith said:
This is, however, the third time in nine years that he has been banned for a short period, he doesn't seem to be getting the message.
Well, shock horror, I do the same and have not been caught in years and have never had more than 3 pts on my licence.

Steve just must not be as clever as me in knowing where the scameras are biggrin

Aretnap

1,844 posts

165 months

Thursday 6th February
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menguin said:
Seems fairly likely he's comfortable with the bans considering he's had so many
I'm sure he can afford a chauffeur when he needs one.

agtlaw

7,114 posts

220 months

Thursday 6th February
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Mandat said:
… £3,590 fine for only 97mph on a motorway seems a sufficiently large punishment.
That’s more than the maximum fine, so that didn’t happen.

What actually happened:

Fine £2500
Victim surcharge £1000
Prosecution costs £90

Total £3590

The sentence appears to be wrong in principle as no credit was given for his guilty plea!