Hare Coursing and Hunting

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Tom8

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4,280 posts

169 months

Tuesday 18th March
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Interesting reading this.
We had this on our land. Reported it to West Mercia police who couldn't be less interested. The only crime they felt was committed was the verbal abuse aimed at my wife as being female is a protected characteristic.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cy7xg4kkln0o

Also living in a caravan seems to be a protected characteristic that is far more important than any other.

On the flip side we also have issues with the local hunt at the other end of the spectrum. They feel it is their right to go anywhere over anyone's land with a pack of dogs not under control and always hunting foxes. We used to be fairly ambivalent about hunting but having encountered our local hunt I want it banned as these entitled aholes need to learn a lesson.

geeks

10,462 posts

154 months

Tuesday 18th March
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This happened less than a couple of miles from us: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c247z2vd828o

Police around here are usually pretty good at reacting to hare coursing but they are totally not equipped to deal with this sort of event.

The locals were rightly very animated about the incident https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-6NoUm7TMtI

Six people have been arrested so far apparently.

Tom8

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4,280 posts

169 months

Tuesday 18th March
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geeks said:
This happened less than a couple of miles from us: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c247z2vd828o

Police around here are usually pretty good at reacting to hare coursing but they are totally not equipped to deal with this sort of event.

The locals were rightly very animated about the incident https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-6NoUm7TMtI

Six people have been arrested so far apparently.
Wow, aholes. Bit like the rural version of these kids in towns riding motorbikes on one wheel and swerving around or crashing into cars and pedestrians.

geeks

10,462 posts

154 months

Tuesday 18th March
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Yup it genuinely frightened some of the locals, there were a couple of car accidents caused by it as well as they went from field to field across main roads without looking flat out. We live on a farm next door to the farmer, he occasionally calls me to ask me to call the police when he spots the coursers on his or the neighbouring farms fields. Police are usually here in short order, generally one in a pickup and another standard car and they usually box them in and get the dogs confiscated, vehicle impounded etc. I guess the courses have worked this out and now go about in numbers the police arent capable of covering. Not a good sign.

We have found two abandoned dogs in 3 years here, both were coursers and just in a fking terrible state and taken to woodgreen shelter.

Its a genuine rural issue that is generally not well understood outside of certain rural communities and it seems there is no joined up services by the police etc to tackle it properly.

Also I forgot to say in my first reply, sorry you and your wife had to go through this

vixen1700

26,078 posts

285 months

Tuesday 18th March
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Tom8 said:
On the flip side we also have issues with the local hunt at the other end of the spectrum. They feel it is their right to go anywhere over anyone's land with a pack of dogs not under control and always hunting foxes. We used to be fairly ambivalent about hunting but having encountered our local hunt I want it banned as these entitled aholes need to learn a lesson.
I despise these 'people'.

TheJimi

26,431 posts

258 months

Tuesday 18th March
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Tom8 said:
Interesting reading this.
We had this on our land. Reported it to West Mercia police who couldn't be less interested. The only crime they felt was committed was the verbal abuse aimed at my wife as being female is a protected characteristic.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cy7xg4kkln0o

Also living in a caravan seems to be a protected characteristic that is far more important than any other.

On the flip side we also have issues with the local hunt at the other end of the spectrum. They feel it is their right to go anywhere over anyone's land with a pack of dogs not under control and always hunting foxes. We used to be fairly ambivalent about hunting but having encountered our local hunt I want it banned as these entitled aholes need to learn a lesson.
Where's a gunship with a FLIR and a 30mm cannon when you need one?


BrettMRC

5,007 posts

175 months

Tuesday 18th March
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Tom8 said:
Wow, aholes. Bit like the rural version of these kids in towns riding motorbikes on one wheel and swerving around or crashing into cars and pedestrians.
100% this - and I used a similar line when complaining to our force last year.

Just because you're in the countryside and over the age of 20 doesn't mean it's not a gang.

fking aholes the lot of them - sick to death of the threats and the violence against people who just want them off their land.

Gareth79

8,320 posts

261 months

Tuesday 18th March
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Only a matter of time before a farmer goes out with a shotgun in his car and feels he needs to use it in defence of his life.

TheJimi

26,431 posts

258 months

Tuesday 18th March
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Gareth79 said:
Only a matter of time before a farmer goes out with a shotgun in his car and feels he needs to use it in defence of his life.
Surely this -

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cy7xg4kkln0o

Is a situation where lethal force by the farmer would be justified?

Rusty Old-Banger

5,749 posts

228 months

Tuesday 18th March
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Tony Martin had the right idea. fking caravan scum.

I'll accept my ban for saying that. I have no issue dying on that hill.

julianm

1,662 posts

216 months

Tuesday 18th March
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I did read the BBC article this morning & it is disturbing.
Lawless situation where things could get life-threatening very quickly.
It's a pleasure for me to see the hares locally but I'm always aware that they are under threat from this bunch of travelling thugs - up & down the A1 in no time & it seems cloned plates are the obvious choice.
It would be good to see some prison terms taking into account the threats.
I do hope the local situation for you improves - maybe they will move on having been confronted.

BrettMRC

5,007 posts

175 months

Tuesday 18th March
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Worth pointing out that this is not just the demographic being mentioned about - it's happening and actively supported by landed gentry as well, with not a caravan in sight.

scrw.

2,929 posts

205 months

Tuesday 18th March
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Had a chat with the local police Rural Crime Unit about this, happening a bit more near me now. Seems to be very organised, with drones streaming the footage to (alleged) Asian betting places, lots of cash involved. Was told not to get intervein just call the plod.

BigMon

5,237 posts

144 months

Tuesday 18th March
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I'd love to see the winkers who enjoy this sport have the tables turned and have to try to escape themselves from a slavering hound trying to rip them to pieces.

Just utter scum along with anyone who thinks animal cruelty of all forms is an enjoyable day out and justifies it because it was done in the past.

vixen1700

26,078 posts

285 months

Tuesday 18th March
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BigMon said:
I'd love to see the winkers who enjoy this sport have the tables turned and have to try to escape themselves from a slavering hound trying to rip them to pieces.

Just utter scum along with anyone who thinks animal cruelty of all forms is an enjoyable day out and justifies it because it was done in the past.
Spot on! thumbup

Yertis

19,064 posts

281 months

Tuesday 18th March
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BrettMRC said:
Worth pointing out that this is not just the demographic being mentioned about - it's happening and actively supported by landed gentry as well, with not a caravan in sight.
Really? Where?

BrettMRC

5,007 posts

175 months

Tuesday 18th March
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Yertis said:
Really? Where?
Somerset and Dorset.

Fatboy

8,217 posts

287 months

Tuesday 18th March
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BigMon said:
I'd love to see the winkers who enjoy this sport have the tables turned and have to try to escape themselves from a slavering hound trying to rip them to pieces.

Just utter scum along with anyone who thinks animal cruelty of all forms is an enjoyable day out and justifies it because it was done in the past.
They should just legalise the hunting of her coursers with hounds - set the fkers against each other

Steve vRS

5,218 posts

256 months

Tuesday 18th March
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I've seen signs on paths near me (leafy Cheshire) asking people to report coursing to the police if you witness anything. I also saw a lot of rather expensive 4x4s driven by Barbour wearing 'people racing down a country road near Tatton Park on Sunday, no doubt following a hunt. They are all the same kind of scum.

Very depressing.

bstb3

4,662 posts

173 months

Tuesday 18th March
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Not sure why we don't use the other forces we have to deal with this kind of mass criminal activity. It's clear the Police aren't resourced sufficiently to deal with it (not withstanding their willingness) but they aren't the only means to an end. If these activities are normally happening within a relatively well defined area, why can't we station some of the armed forces in that area as quick response teams to deal with it instead? See it happening, phone the police who pass it on to them to deal with.

Surely it would at least be a deterrent? No doubt there will be laws / rules of engagement needing to be rewritten perhaps to allow it, but why wouldn't we do that? It would be good training for the military, a fairly hefty deterrent for the scumbags and also show that the establishment actually serious about law and order for once.