I just don't understand how they do it?
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Middle eastern countries!
I spend a fair bit of time in Qatar and Dubai and I'm continually amazed at how they run at such a level with low or no tax regimes.
Now I know there's no NHS and you pay to go to school - fair enough - but roads, streets, police, fire service, government buildings, immigration, public transport.
It's all there. All runs seemingly better than here and cheaper
Salaries are way higher (wife earns three times what she'd earn in the UK) yet I stay in a five star hotel and I mean vastly superior to a London 5 star for £80 a night, eat a gourmet steak meal (with wine yes) for £50 and a bus or train fare is pennies as is a hair cut, taxi ride or pizza
How do they provide all this yet allow people to earn tax free?
Should we be looking at this as a viable model for the UK?
Middle eastern countries!
I spend a fair bit of time in Qatar and Dubai and I'm continually amazed at how they run at such a level with low or no tax regimes.
Now I know there's no NHS and you pay to go to school - fair enough - but roads, streets, police, fire service, government buildings, immigration, public transport.
It's all there. All runs seemingly better than here and cheaper
Salaries are way higher (wife earns three times what she'd earn in the UK) yet I stay in a five star hotel and I mean vastly superior to a London 5 star for £80 a night, eat a gourmet steak meal (with wine yes) for £50 and a bus or train fare is pennies as is a hair cut, taxi ride or pizza
How do they provide all this yet allow people to earn tax free?
Should we be looking at this as a viable model for the UK?
- wealth from oil & gas revenues
- small national populations
- work performed by non-nationals who the state has no liability for
- vast sovereign wealth funds
Thankyou4calling said:
How do they provide all this yet allow people to earn tax free?
Should we be looking at this as a viable model for the UK?
Don't you think you need an answer to question 1, before considering question 2? For someone who has visited, you seem incredibly naive about how the countries actually work... Should we be looking at this as a viable model for the UK?
Anyway....
How? Oil money, basically. That and what is basically slavery for most of the jobs.
No rights at all unless you're a UAE Citizen. However, the majority of the workforce are immigrants and earn very little. Have no protection at all from the state. If they lose their job they are kicked out. The system is very much open to abuse from their employer.
Should we look to replicate it here? Absolutely not.
EDIT - also, you might remember they chopped up a journalist with a circular saw, inside an embassy because they didn't like what he wrote. Clearly sanctioned by the highest powers of government. Nobody ever charged or prosecuted for the offence.
Edited by Condi on Monday 28th April 16:47
Condi said:
Thankyou4calling said:
How do they provide all this yet allow people to earn tax free?
Should we be looking at this as a viable model for the UK?
Don't you think you need an answer to question 1, before considering question 2? For someone who has visited, you seem incredibly naive about how the countries actually work... Should we be looking at this as a viable model for the UK?
Anyway....
How? Oil money, basically. That and what is basically slavery for most of the jobs.
No rights at all unless you're a UAE Citizen. However, the majority of the workforce are immigrants and earn very little. Have no protection at all from the state. If they lose their job they are kicked out. The system is very much open to abuse from their employer.
Should we look to replicate it here? Absolutely not.
EDIT - also, you might remember they chopped up a journalist with a circular saw, inside an embassy because they didn't like what he wrote. Clearly sanctioned by the highest powers of government. Nobody ever charged or prosecuted for the offence.
Edited by Condi on Monday 28th April 16:47
All you need is an abundance of oil and a ready supply of workers with few rights
Thankyou4calling said:
How do they provide all this yet allow people to earn tax free?
Should we be looking at this as a viable model for the UK?
As has been mentioned already, even a cursory read up on some of the background of these governments and how they built their wealth should answer your first question. Should we be looking at this as a viable model for the UK?
To answer your second - no, we bloody well shouldn't.
Shnozz said:
98elise said:
Agreed, how can someone who's been there not realise how they get their money?
All you need is an abundance of oil and a ready supply of workers with few rights
Bizarre All you need is an abundance of oil and a ready supply of workers with few rights
And is impressed by staying in a 5 star hotel over there for £50/night.
Having said all that, i am detecting troll thread.
Saw a video of a guy living in Dubai who says he leaves his keys in his ferrari, and no one is gonna nick it, and also gives the pros of cons of living there. This guy https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vT7xlxMYKUM
How do they get virtually negligible levels of crime like theft? We should replicate that here given our almost lawlessness when it comes to theft.
How do they get virtually negligible levels of crime like theft? We should replicate that here given our almost lawlessness when it comes to theft.
s1962a said:
Saw a video of a guy living in Dubai who says he leaves his keys in his ferrari, and no one is gonna nick it, and also gives the pros of cons of living there. This guy https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vT7xlxMYKUM
How do they get virtually negligible levels of crime like theft? We should replicate that here given our almost lawlessness when it comes to theft.
Is that a serious question? Just look up their laws - it's something like 2 years in prison for theft.How do they get virtually negligible levels of crime like theft? We should replicate that here given our almost lawlessness when it comes to theft.
s1962a said:
Saw a video of a guy living in Dubai who says he leaves his keys in his ferrari, and no one is gonna nick it, and also gives the pros of cons of living there. This guy https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vT7xlxMYKUM
How do they get virtually negligible levels of crime like theft? We should replicate that here given our almost lawlessness when it comes to theft.
Easy. Create a situation where a small number of 'citizens' can afford a new Ferrari every month, while everyone else is under fear of evisceration just for looking at someone's car in a suspicious manner.How do they get virtually negligible levels of crime like theft? We should replicate that here given our almost lawlessness when it comes to theft.
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