Crossbow attack suspect put 'massacre' plans online

[bitchstewie]

Another fk up who badly injured two innocent people before offing himself.

Crossbow attack suspect put 'massacre' plans online

Manifestos, misogyny, far-right, it's becoming a familiar tale

[Dingu]

Glad he’s dead. Good riddance.

[Gecko1978]

I can't help think we are labeling everything far right now when it's less political more some men feel so lost in this world they latch in to anything on line as a target for their self loathing.

So you are not a failure because;
You have no skills
You don't have hobbies
You are social awkward
You are unhealthy
You are lazy
You drink or use drugs

No all your problems are, women, lefties, people of a different race, different religion, with skills, with jobs etc.

So while this chaos might have been a total Hitler fruit loop fan boy in reality he is what we called in the 90s a looser. But a looser who likes crossbows.

I went to school with a lad who was obsessed with guns, the army etc. Massively obese, bottom set for everything yet wanted to be a soldier. Far as I know he never made it past army cadets.

[Fast and Spurious]

Looser? Looser than what?

[Gecko1978]

Fast and Spurious said:

Looser? Looser than what?

A faulty nut lol. Good spot

[bitchstewie]

Gecko1978 said:

I can't help think we are labeling everything far right now when it's less political more some men feel so lost in this world they latch in to anything on line as a target for their self loathing.

Apparently he literally said it about himself.

the BBC said:

In the online post, reference was made to a "manifesto" written by the man who killed 51 people during shootings at a mosque and Islamic centre in Christchurch, New Zealand, in 2019.

The post contained reference to weapons, including a crossbow and airgun, and it stated he had "explored far right ideas".

In a separate post, also apparently made by Mr Lawrence earlier this year, he listed that he hated "gender equality", "feminists of all four waves" and "feminoids", as well as "soap operas" and "society".

Got the full house there

[oddman]

Well. He proved his T shirt slogan true

[BikeBikeBIke]

I can't find any detail of what ended this attack.

He topped himself so does that mean two victims was his idea of a massacre so he voluntarily stopped at that point? Or was an angry crowd approaching him? 2 victims seems an odd point to stop.

Whatever, utter prick. Glad the tax payer won't be feeding him for 40 years.

[thetapeworm]

It seems like the idea of committing the planned acts appealed to him but the reality of his actions hit home pretty fast and he took the option to end his own life instead of facing capture and trial.

Despite his online bravado, thankfully, he was a loser at this as much he probably was at everything else.

I really hope the Iady that's still in hospital recovers and those affected get the psychological help they might need.

[Dynion Araf Uchaf]

one of the girls that was injured, had the crossbow bolt fired directly at her forehead, where it failed to breach to the skull.

I don't know whether to be impressed by the accuracy of the shooter, or the strength of the skull, or maybe just dismayed at the quality of the bolt.

[s1962a]

Gecko1978 said:

I can't help think we are labeling everything far right now when it's less political more some men feel so lost in this world they latch in to anything on line as a target for their self loathing.

So you are not a failure because;
You have no skills
You don't have hobbies
You are social awkward
You are unhealthy
You are lazy
You drink or use drugs

No all your problems are, women, lefties, people of a different race, different religion, with skills, with jobs etc.

So while this chaos might have been a total Hitler fruit loop fan boy in reality he is what we called in the 90s a looser. But a looser who likes crossbows.

I went to school with a lad who was obsessed with guns, the army etc. Massively obese, bottom set for everything yet wanted to be a soldier. Far as I know he never made it past army cadets.

If the terrorist was a non white guy he wouldn't get the privilege of having that type of analysis to figure out why he did it.

What a horrific attack.

[BikeBikeBIke]

s1962a said:

If the terrorist was a non white guy he wouldn't get the privilege of having that type of analysis to figure out why he did it.

bks.

When the killer is brown there is *way* more analysis of motives. Pages and pages of debate about it.

In this case there's almost none.

I suspect becaise, just as with brown people, it's pretty clear what he/they are all about. They're all the bloody same, inadequate violent scum who found an excuse to do something they wanted to do anyway.

He wasn't psychotic, these people never are, regardless of their background.

Edited by BikeBikeBIke on Wednesday 30th April 12:49

[Countdown]

BikeBikeBIke said:

bks.

When the killer is brown there is *way* more analysis of motives. Pages and pages of debate about it.
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Only if by "analysis" you mean comments such as

"They hate our way of life"
"Alan's Snackbar"
"Religion of Peace"
"Why are we importing these scum in their millions"
"MUSLIMS!!!!"

From memory probably the last example was Axel Rudakabuna - nothing to do with immigrants or muslims, clearly somebody with mental health issues but that didn't stop the usual bigots from trying to associate it with muslims/immigrants, accusing the Government of cover-ups when the narrative didn't fit, attacking hotels where asylum seekers were staying, attacking mosques, taxi drivers etc. And then defending the scum who were caught by the Police and sentenced by the Courts.....

This issue is probably a mental health one where he's latched onto "far Right" or "Anti-woke" issues. IMHO a lot of the attacks by muslims are also rooted in mental health issues. The recent car attack in Vancouver, the multiple shootings in the US....iuf you think about it logically you have to be pretty mentally twisted to want to attack innocent people.

[otolith]

Countdown said:

IMHO a lot of the attacks by muslims are also rooted in mental health issues. The recent car attack in Vancouver, the multiple shootings in the US....iuf you think about it logically you have to be pretty mentally twisted to want to attack innocent people.

The Vancouver car attacker is not being reported to be Muslim, though he is being reported to have had "a significant history of interactions with police and healthcare professionals related to mental health".

[BikeBikeBIke]

Countdown said:

BikeBikeBIke said:

bks.

When the killer is brown there is *way* more analysis of motives. Pages and pages of debate about it.
[/footnote]

From memory probably the last example was Axel Rudakabuna

There were literally thousands of posts about potential motives in that case. People argued about it for weeks. In this case I count less than a handful.

[BikeBikeBIke]

Countdown said:

IMHO a lot of the attacks by muslims are also rooted in mental health issues.

Or to put it another way: "They're all the bloody same, inadequate violent scum who found an excuse to do something they wanted to do anyway.".

The idea that the Muslims are any different is bks. They're all the same. None of them are well adjusted peaceful people who are compelled by politics or religion to do something they don't want to do.

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otolith said:

Countdown said:

IMHO a lot of the attacks by muslims are also rooted in mental health issues. The recent car attack in Vancouver, the multiple shootings in the US....iuf you think about it logically you have to be pretty mentally twisted to want to attack innocent people.

The Vancouver car attacker is not being reported to be Muslim, though he is being reported to have had "a significant history of interactions with police and healthcare professionals related to mental health".

I know. The point i was trying to make is that if he'd been muslim the attack would have been blamed on his religion rather than the fact that he had mental health issues.

[Countdown]

BikeBikeBIke said:

Countdown said:

IMHO a lot of the attacks by muslims are also rooted in mental health issues.

Or to put it another way: "They're all the bloody same, inadequate violent scum who found an excuse to do something they wanted to do anyway.".

The idea that the Muslims are any different is bks. They're all the same. None of them are well adjusted peaceful people who are compelled by politics or religion to do something they don't want to do.

I think we're in violent agreement.

However that's not the impression I get from quite a few NP&E posters

[otolith]

Countdown said:

I know. The point i was trying to make is that if he'd been muslim the attack would have been blamed on his religion rather than the fact that he had mental health issues.

In the social media commentary, it was blamed on that, right up to the point that it turned out that he wasn't one. Which is a common pattern.

[Countdown]

otolith said:

Countdown said:

I know. The point i was trying to make is that if he'd been muslim the attack would have been blamed on his religion rather than the fact that he had mental health issues.

In the social media commentary, it was blamed on that, right up to the point that it turned out that he wasn't one. Which is a common pattern.

Ah ok, I wasn't aware of that. And yes, agreed that it's a common pattern.