UK US Trade Deal

[s1962a]

Do we have any details?

https://news.sky.com/story/politics-latest-local-e...

[s1962a]

cholorinated chicken and hormone fed beef. Get in!

[Freakuk]

Big V8 chevvies on a boat as we speak..... Oh wait

[BigMon]

If it's anything like the India 'deal' it'll be trousers down and pop something into your mouth to bite on.

[NDA]

I assume if food products are clearly labelled as American, we can avoid swimming pool chicken?

[FourWheelDrift]

s1962a said:

cholorinated chicken and hormone fed beef. Get in!

They will get US flags on the chickens, so they will be easy to avoid. Plus to sell them first someone needs to import them and I can't see anyone doing that in the first place. As for the hormone beef, they can't be legally sold anyway.

[fat80b]

NDA said:

I assume if food products are clearly labelled as American, we can avoid swimming pool chicken?

Only in supermarkets - i.e. pub food and everything else will just go for the cheapest.....In practical terms, I don't think it'd be avoidable

[Patio]

Cheap bourbon to help make it through the day?

[Earthdweller]

s1962a said:

cholorinated chicken and hormone fed beef. Get in!

Less than 5% of US Chicken is washed in chlorine

Almost all U.K. salads and vegetables are washed in chlorine

All U.K. drinking water contains chlorine

Hormone fed beef is illegal in the U.K.

[Dog Star]

BigMon said:

If it's anything like the India 'deal' it'll be trousers down and pop something into your mouth to bite on.

That India “deal” is outrageous. How on earth is putting tens of thousands of skilled IT workers in the UK on the dole and instead transferring their skills and the wages they earn to India while receiving third rate product in return and sort of good thing? Didn’t they learn last time?

I’m “lucky” as I’m 57 and can afford to just give up, but I wouldn’t want to be an IT dev in my thirties now. If the AI doesn’t get you then sum bloke from Mumbai sure will.

[s1962a]

Apparently big US tech firms will get tax breaks in the UK too. We keep winning.

[Paddymcc]

s1962a said:

Apparently big US tech firms will get tax breaks in the UK too. We keep winning.

What a great idea because they're paying buckets of tax already.

[s1962a]

Paddymcc said:

s1962a said:

Apparently big US tech firms will get tax breaks in the UK too. We keep winning.

What a great idea because they're paying buckets of tax already.

This is what it said on the BBC

BBC said:

Taxes on US tech firms could also be altered. At the moment the UK’s Digital Services Tax imposes a 2% levy on revenues of tech giants which raises about £800m a year. It affects the likes of US firms such as Amazon and Meta, but there is speculation the tax could be lowered.

Maybe we could take away some more money from pensioners to cover the shortfall?

[732NM]

Earthdweller said:

s1962a said:

cholorinated chicken and hormone fed beef. Get in!

Less than 5% of US Chicken is washed in chlorine

Almost all U.K. salads and vegetables are washed in chlorine

All U.K. drinking water contains chlorine

Hormone fed beef is illegal in the U.K.

The chlorinated chicken argument has been done to death on here, there is nothing wrong with it, the restriction was an EU/UK market protection policy.

Hormone fed beef is illegal in the U.K. at the moment, that can be changed by Parliament.

Starmer has an issue as he was attempting to re-align the UK with the EU, if this USA-UK deal includes breaks with the current EU policy, then that makes Starmers job more difficult (a good thing, we should be more open to ROW).

I expect this deal will be fairly limited, and will be aimed at mitigating the across the board 10% tariff, maybe bring it down to 5%, and the big drop will be on car imports and maybe even steel, which are currently at 25%, if that comes down to 5-10% that would be an interest to ROW as that's likely the bottom rate possible for everyone. The EU car makers will be watching this closely.

[maz8062]

Dog Star said:

BigMon said:

If it's anything like the India 'deal' it'll be trousers down and pop something into your mouth to bite on.

That India “deal” is outrageous. How on earth is putting tens of thousands of skilled IT workers in the UK on the dole and instead transferring their skills and the wages they earn to India while receiving third rate product in return and sort of good thing? Didn’t they learn last time?

I’m “lucky” as I’m 57 and can afford to just give up, but I wouldn’t want to be an IT dev in my thirties now. If the AI doesn’t get you then sum bloke from Mumbai sure will.

But this is what Brexiteers wanted; trade with the rest of the world rather than with our closest neighbours.

The US deal will be terrible, but at least we're winning.

[Wills2]

I find the argument around chicken and beef strange millions of Brits go to the US every year and wolf down the food, I've had some of my best meals in the US, yet we suddenly get all het up at that food coming here?

[RobB_]

Wills2 said:

I find the argument around chicken and beef strange millions of Brits go to the US every year and wolf down the food, I've had some of my best meals in the US, yet we suddenly get all het up at that food coming here?

it's not right for a UIK biz having to play to a stricter rule book to US firms. UK biz will close because the costs will be higher.

UK/EU food standards are excellent and we shouldn't negate - US food can be good, but most of it is cheap st - and we don't want the cheap stuff being dumped here.

[5 In a Row]

Dog Star said:

That India “deal” is outrageous. How on earth is putting tens of thousands of skilled IT workers in the UK on the dole and instead transferring their skills and the wages they earn to India while receiving third rate product in return and sort of good thing? Didn’t they learn last time?

How is this offshoring any different to what's been going on for the past couple of decades?
Were there protests outside banks 20 years ago when they started doing it, for example?

[chrispmartha]

BigMon said:

If it's anything like the India 'deal' it'll be trousers down and pop something into your mouth to bite on.

You do realise that the US already has the same deal on NI with seconded workers as the new India deal?

Have you been outraged all the time that has been in place?

[valiant]

chrispmartha said:

BigMon said:

If it's anything like the India 'deal' it'll be trousers down and pop something into your mouth to bite on.

You do realise that the US already has the same deal on NI with seconded workers as the new India deal?

Have you been outraged all the time that has been in place?

Alongside a host of other countries.

Don't remember any outcry over them...