Hainault tube attack verdict

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scenario8

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193 months

Wednesday
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The original thread was closed, presumably due to the criminal proceedings but many may recall the news at the time.

https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...

The accused found guilty this afternoon.

What a horrifying story.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cwyrg6ynnx9o


sjc

14,835 posts

284 months

Wednesday
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scenario8 said:
The original thread was closed, presumably due to the criminal proceedings but many may recall the news at the time.

https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...

The accused found guilty this afternoon.

What a horrifying story.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cwyrg6ynnx9o
My lifelong friends daughter was the policewoman who chased this animal down an alleyway and got macheted 4 times for her bravery. She lost a seriously life threatening amount of blood, and only the air ambulance saved her. Only now, can she start to move forward,but it's a hell of a long road.
Now we'll look after this human faece for years, and no doubt some do-gooding idiot on here will cast him as a victim of something....explain that to the poor lads family.

bitchstewie

58,407 posts

224 months

Wednesday
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I read some of it during the trial.

Poor lad and what an absolute fking animal that bloke is.

Don Roque

18,095 posts

173 months

Wednesday
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Another drug-crazed lunatic who deserves no better than hanging.

Slow.Patrol

1,783 posts

28 months

Wednesday
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bhstewie said:
I read some of it during the trial.

Poor lad and what an absolute fking animal that bloke is.
I really can't find any justification why he should remain alive.


milesgiles

2,239 posts

43 months

Wednesday
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I can’t find any justification for why he was in the country at all

sjc

14,835 posts

284 months

Wednesday
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Slow.Patrol said:
bhstewie said:
I read some of it during the trial.

Poor lad and what an absolute fking animal that bloke is.
I really can't find any justification why he should remain alive.
Indeed.
In these circumstances where there is zero doubt,there isn’t any.

Alex Z

1,763 posts

90 months

Wednesday
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milesgiles said:
I can t find any justification for why he was in the country at all
What would have been the grounds for refusing entry?

Serious question. Is there anything to suggest he wasn’t here legally?

milesgiles

2,239 posts

43 months

Wednesday
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Alex Z said:
milesgiles said:
I can t find any justification for why he was in the country at all
What would have been the grounds for refusing entry?

Serious question. Is there anything to suggest he wasn t here legally?
Not likely to be an asylum seeker from Spain or Brazil

Which should mean he was earning a reasonably serious amount of money in a professional job. Can’t see anybody claiming that though

and31

4,111 posts

141 months

Wednesday
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Just been watching about this piece of st on the news.the copper shouting at the residents to lock their doors was chilling.
One thing I cant understand is after knowing he’d chopped several victims with a sword, why didn’t the police just run him over instead of trying to pepper spray him?

Langweilig

4,436 posts

225 months

Yesterday (05:19)
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Cannabis-induced psychosis? Nonsense, I say. With what he did to his pet cat, cruelty to animals is a classic sign that murderer Monzo is a psychopath.

One thing I'd like to know is why didn't the police, when calling for back-up, just call an Armed Response Unit? A double-tap to the chest would've put a stop to that monster - permanently.

119

11,504 posts

50 months

Yesterday (08:14)
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Must admit, i didn't realise officers didn't carry tazers as part of their uniform.

sjc

14,835 posts

284 months

Yesterday (08:21)
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and31 said:
Just been watching about this piece of st on the news.the copper shouting at the residents to lock their doors was chilling.
One thing I cant understand is after knowing he d chopped several victims with a sword, why didn t the police just run him over instead of trying to pepper spray him?
Because by then they were on foot,hardly likely to have time to run back to their car.
They chased him down an alleyway,taking him away from Hainault station which would have been full in morning rush hour.

BikeBikeBIke

11,576 posts

129 months

Yesterday (08:46)
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"However, the prosecution argued that psychosis brought on by self-induced was no defence"

That's kind of interesting from a legal POV. If you're responsible for your psychosis it's not a defence. Which is quite right. Im sure there was an American case where a guy on LSD skinned his GF and got off.

I'd agree with PP. We don't need to import Amazon delivery drivers so he shouldn't have been here. This is a case where hanging would be a good solution all round. Boils my piss that I'll be funding this guy's life for the rest of my own life.

Mastodon2

14,029 posts

179 months

Yesterday (09:39)
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Another lunatic off his nut on a so-called 'harmless plant'. It wasn't so long ago that a disturbingly similar crime took place involving cannabis, murder and dismemberment by sword in Yorkshire. As usage becomes more and more widespread, having blanket coverage in every council estate in the country and the strains used become ever stronger, I think we'll see more of these 'induced psychosis' crimes taking place.

Still, at least we can now look forward to keeping this guy locked up at great expense to our taxpayers. I can see no reason to keep him alive, there is no doubt of his guilt, no prospect of rehabilitation. A fast track to the gallows would have been a better outcome, were the option available.

Cuoco

9,015 posts

222 months

Yesterday (09:46)
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Mastodon2 said:
Another lunatic off his nut on a so-called 'harmless plant'. It wasn't so long ago that a disturbingly similar crime took place involving cannabis, murder and dismemberment by sword in Yorkshire. As usage becomes more and more widespread, having blanket coverage in every council estate in the country and the strains used become ever stronger, I think we'll see more of these 'induced psychosis' crimes taking place.

Still, at least we can now look forward to keeping this guy locked up at great expense to our taxpayers. I can see no reason to keep him alive, there is no doubt of his guilt, no prospect of rehabilitation. A fast track to the gallows would have been a better outcome, were the option available.
Agree, and Peter Hitchens is right again on drugs.

Spare tyre

11,212 posts

144 months

Yesterday (09:46)
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Mastodon2 said:
Another lunatic off his nut on a so-called 'harmless plant'. It wasn't so long ago that a disturbingly similar crime took place involving cannabis, murder and dismemberment by sword in Yorkshire. As usage becomes more and more widespread, having blanket coverage in every council estate in the country and the strains used become ever stronger, I think we'll see more of these 'induced psychosis' crimes taking place.

Still, at least we can now look forward to keeping this guy locked up at great expense to our taxpayers. I can see no reason to keep him alive, there is no doubt of his guilt, no prospect of rehabilitation. A fast track to the gallows would have been a better outcome, were the option available.
We have a cut way up the side of our house, people passing all day long

The frequency of the smell in the last 10 years I would say has increased 5 fold ( I do wonder if some could be a vape flavour?)

The other thing I’ve noticed is that certain folk will even do it on the way to collect kids from school after dumping their car on the zig zags

Byker28i

74,527 posts

231 months

Yesterday (10:21)
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Anyone riding a motorbike will tell you there are so many drivers smoking weed as soon as they leave work

and31

4,111 posts

141 months

Yesterday (10:51)
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sjc said:
and31 said:
Just been watching about this piece of st on the news.the copper shouting at the residents to lock their doors was chilling.
One thing I cant understand is after knowing he d chopped several victims with a sword, why didn t the police just run him over instead of trying to pepper spray him?
Because by then they were on foot,hardly likely to have time to run back to their car.
They chased him down an alleyway,taking him away from Hainault station which would have been full in morning rush hour.

In some of the footage I saw they were right next to two police cars shouting at him to put the sword down and he was 20 or 30 metres away

Earthdweller

15,975 posts

140 months

Yesterday (11:13)
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Langweilig said:
Cannabis-induced psychosis? Nonsense, I say. With what he did to his pet cat, cruelty to animals is a classic sign that murderer Monzo is a psychopath.

One thing I'd like to know is why didn't the police, when calling for back-up, just call an Armed Response Unit? A double-tap to the chest would've put a stop to that monster - permanently.
1. Cannabis induced psychosis is a thing

2. ARV's were deployed, in numbers, but they were travelling from their base in inner London

Local officers responded with great bravery from the local station which is approx 1 mile away

The boundary of the Met is literally about 200m from this location, this occurred on the extremity of the Met, in an ordinarily quiet location