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A500leroy

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6,987 posts

134 months

Saturday 16th August
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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c4gmk2yj5e9o

Why? Why must the UK tax payer be billed for this?
Why not the rest of the world?

What connection have we got with Gaza?

Rumdoodle

1,341 posts

36 months

Saturday 16th August
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The article says other countries are doing it too e.g. Jordan.

Aid funds have been allocated for Gaza, but the difficulty of delivering aid in Gaza means that some of it can't be spent there. I suppose bringing people out for treatment is another way of trying to achieve the same ends.

bigpriest

2,109 posts

146 months

Saturday 16th August
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As long as it's an exhange programme for the A&E timewasters on a Friday and Saturday. £100 a visit.

JoshSm

1,678 posts

53 months

Saturday 16th August
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Charity is always nice, especially if it's someone else who's paying for it.

Bearing in mind a bit of medical treatment would just be part of it.

Randy Winkman

19,158 posts

205 months

Saturday 16th August
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Rumdoodle said:
The article says other countries are doing it too e.g. Jordan.
A good point that the OP seems to overlook.

valiant

12,455 posts

176 months

Saturday 16th August
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We arguing about treating sick kids now?

Classy.

Swoxy

2,841 posts

226 months

Saturday 16th August
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A500leroy said:
What connection have we got with Gaza?

No ideas for a name

2,675 posts

102 months

Saturday 16th August
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We, the UK has some responsibility going back a very long time (100 years+). We may have had good intent, but it was a bit of a mess.
Even recently it appears the UK has supported Natanyahu in his war against Palestinians.
It is only over the last few months that the UK's position has changed as we seem to have realised it is a full scale genocide against the Palestinian people.

For clarity - NOT hamas - Palestinians. Particularaly the Palestinian children who are the subject of this thread. They have no choice, they haven't supported Hamas. What are they expected to think of Israel when all they see is Israel blowing bits off their houses and families.

The main issue I can se here is it can be taken two ways - is removing the Palestinian children along with their families not just helping with what amounts to ethnic cleansing?

We also have to ask yourselves what such Palestinians may think of us once they are living amongst us. Are they grateful or resentful?

We are in very great danger of not seeing the full picture and making things worse.




Rumdoodle

1,341 posts

36 months

Saturday 16th August
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No ideas for a name said:
The main issue I can se here is it can be taken two ways - is removing the Palestinian children along with their families not just helping with what amounts to ethnic cleansing?
Jordan, which already hosts far more Palestinians than we ever will, already operates this type of medical support. They would be baffled at the suggestion that they were complicit in ethnic cleansing.

JoshSm

1,678 posts

53 months

Saturday 16th August
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valiant said:
We arguing about treating sick kids now?

Classy.
It goes slightly beyond that, just like in previous cases.

It's easy to just look at that morally attractive bit and forget about all the rest that comes with it. Usually it turns out to be a permanent responsibility for an entire family.

Responsibility should lie somewhere much closer, like in the modern democracy that's actually responsible for that territory.

sugerbear

5,487 posts

174 months

Saturday 16th August
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JoshSm said:
Charity is always nice, especially if it's someone else who's paying for it.

Bearing in mind a bit of medical treatment would just be part of it.
Your first sentence is the very definition of charity.

sugerbear

5,487 posts

174 months

Saturday 16th August
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JoshSm said:
valiant said:
We arguing about treating sick kids now?

Classy.
It goes slightly beyond that, just like in previous cases.

It's easy to just look at that morally attractive bit and forget about all the rest that comes with it. Usually it turns out to be a permanent responsibility for an entire family.

Responsibility should lie somewhere much closer, like in the modern democracy that's actually responsible for that territory.
Feel free to keep digging.

fflump

2,446 posts

54 months

Saturday 16th August
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A500leroy said:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c4gmk2yj5e9o

Why? Why must the UK tax payer be billed for this?
Why not the rest of the world?

What connection have we got with Gaza?
Aside from the obvious historical link we have with Gaza , you are probably the type who begrudges most things that your taxes are spent on, assuming you pay any. Personally if some of the 47% of income tax I pay as a resident of a free, peaceful and prosperous country went towards saving the lives of some of these children I’d feel it money well spent.

Panamax

6,602 posts

50 months

Saturday 16th August
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It's so much easier to push a few extra cases through the NHS than to tell Israel they're an absolute bunch of ....

The Israelis are starving people within the borders of their own country. They're bombing people in their own country. They're killing and stealing on the West Bank. And yet they expect the rest of the world to step in with humanitarian aid. Wake up and smell the coffee.

Laving that aside, NHS needs a serious shake-up. A very serious shake-up.

Super Sonic

9,986 posts

70 months

Sunday 17th August
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500Leroy said:
Is there a way to disable posting but still be able to view and read the forum?

ChevronB19

8,137 posts

179 months

Sunday 17th August
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A500leroy said:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c4gmk2yj5e9o

Why? Why must the UK tax payer be billed for this?
Why not the rest of the world?

What connection have we got with Gaza?
What a charmer you are.

Should the Italian taxpayer be billed for this? What connection has Italy got with Gaza?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/ce87n455dvxo

There is a thing in life called ‘moral duty’ - check it out one day.

A500leroy

Original Poster:

6,987 posts

134 months

Sunday 17th August
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fflump said:
A500leroy said:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c4gmk2yj5e9o

Why? Why must the UK tax payer be billed for this?
Why not the rest of the world?

What connection have we got with Gaza?
Aside from the obvious historical link we have with Gaza , you are probably the type who begrudges most things that your taxes are spent on, assuming you pay any. Personally if some of the 47% of income tax I pay as a resident of a free, peaceful and prosperous country went towards saving the lives of some of these children I’d feel it money well spent.
You've obviously not been sat in A and E for 18 hours recently or had relatives who've had 'routine' ops cancelled for the umpteenth time in 2 years.

Our NHS is already crashing with looking after UK residents without sending more cases in from outside.
And yes I do pay every bit of tax HM Gov require of me thanks.

ChevronB19

8,137 posts

179 months

Sunday 17th August
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A500leroy said:
fflump said:
A500leroy said:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c4gmk2yj5e9o

Why? Why must the UK tax payer be billed for this?
Why not the rest of the world?

What connection have we got with Gaza?
Aside from the obvious historical link we have with Gaza , you are probably the type who begrudges most things that your taxes are spent on, assuming you pay any. Personally if some of the 47% of income tax I pay as a resident of a free, peaceful and prosperous country went towards saving the lives of some of these children I’d feel it money well spent.
You've obviously not been sat in A and E for 18 hours recently or had relatives who've had 'routine' ops cancelled for the umpteenth time in 2 years.

Our NHS is already crashing with looking after UK residents without sending more cases in from outside.
And yes I do pay every bit of tax HM Gov require of me thanks.
So we completely ignore the needs of those in the most tragic cases from different countries with effectively no healthcare, including children who are totally innocent?

We stop all foreign aid as well, and become totally isolationist? As noted, plenty of other countries, including many in a worse state than us, are taking in similar cases and treating them, as should be the case.

As another poster said, classy.

crofty1984

16,489 posts

220 months

Sunday 17th August
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Swoxy said:
Yes, but APART from that...

A500leroy

Original Poster:

6,987 posts

134 months

Sunday 17th August
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ChevronB19 said:
A500leroy said:
fflump said:
A500leroy said:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c4gmk2yj5e9o

Why? Why must the UK tax payer be billed for this?
Why not the rest of the world?

What connection have we got with Gaza?
Aside from the obvious historical link we have with Gaza , you are probably the type who begrudges most things that your taxes are spent on, assuming you pay any. Personally if some of the 47% of income tax I pay as a resident of a free, peaceful and prosperous country went towards saving the lives of some of these children I’d feel it money well spent.
You've obviously not been sat in A and E for 18 hours recently or had relatives who've had 'routine' ops cancelled for the umpteenth time in 2 years.

Our NHS is already crashing with looking after UK residents without sending more cases in from outside.
And yes I do pay every bit of tax HM Gov require of me thanks.
So we completely ignore the needs of those in the most tragic cases from different countries with effectively no healthcare, including children who are totally innocent?

We stop all foreign aid as well, and become totally isolationist? As noted, plenty of other countries, including many in a worse state than us, are taking in similar cases and treating them, as should be the case.

As another poster said, classy.
Yes. We fund a NHS, the Americans have health insurance, it's not upto us one of the smallest countries in the world to clog our systems or fund the rest of the world.
They need to start and take some responsibility for themselves.