GAZA What have they done?
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TwigtheWonderkid said:
nikaiyo2 said:
Look at the mess he left the UK in after his attempt at leadership.
Was that his first attempt, after winning his first election in 1997, or his 2nd go at it, after winning the 2001 election, or his final attempt, after winning for a 3rd time in 2005? 
ked it up.
I still don't get how that is going to work. Blair turns up in a helicopter and says "Hi, I'm replacing Hamas" and they say "Fine".
Isn't it more likely the Palestinians will shoot him in the face, set fire to the Helicopter and put the helicopter crew in a tunnel with the other hostages?
Isn't it more likely the Palestinians will shoot him in the face, set fire to the Helicopter and put the helicopter crew in a tunnel with the other hostages?
TwigtheWonderkid said:
nikaiyo2 said:
Look at the mess he left the UK in after his attempt at leadership.
Was that his first attempt, after winning his first election in 1997, or his 2nd go at it, after winning the 2001 election, or his final attempt, after winning for a 3rd time in 2005? 
He's a bit like a bad smell that you just can't seem to get rid of!
BikeBikeBIke said:
I still don't get how that is going to work. Blair turns up in a helicopter and says "Hi, I'm replacing Hamas" and they say "Fine".
Isn't it more likely the Palestinians will shoot him in the face, set fire to the Helicopter and put the helicopter crew in a tunnel with the other hostages?
Whilst I don't normally condone violence, I believe everyone in the UK has earned a get out of jail card for the Blairs.Isn't it more likely the Palestinians will shoot him in the face, set fire to the Helicopter and put the helicopter crew in a tunnel with the other hostages?
If you remove our perceptions of him from the equation, it makes sense.
The appointment of former Prime Ministers and Presidents to administer government in transition nations is something I've long thought sensible. And for the record, I've worked a lot in such countries.
These countries lack cohesive government and the capacity to apply proper and meaningful management to the processes required. In plain English, they don't know what to do.
Regardless of what opinions we may have of past Prime Ministers, they have hands-on experience of running a democratic country and understand the nuts and bolts of the systems needed.
This is nothing to do with politics and everything to do with the implementation of proper governance and accessing the experience of those who have done this to improve things.
The appointment of former Prime Ministers and Presidents to administer government in transition nations is something I've long thought sensible. And for the record, I've worked a lot in such countries.
These countries lack cohesive government and the capacity to apply proper and meaningful management to the processes required. In plain English, they don't know what to do.
Regardless of what opinions we may have of past Prime Ministers, they have hands-on experience of running a democratic country and understand the nuts and bolts of the systems needed.
This is nothing to do with politics and everything to do with the implementation of proper governance and accessing the experience of those who have done this to improve things.
StevieBee said:
If you remove our perceptions of him from the equation, it makes sense.
The appointment of former Prime Ministers and Presidents to administer government in transition nations is something I've long thought sensible. And for the record, I've worked a lot in such countries.
These countries lack cohesive government and the capacity to apply proper and meaningful management to the processes required. In plain English, they don't know what to do.
Regardless of what opinions we may have of past Prime Ministers, they have hands-on experience of running a democratic country and understand the nuts and bolts of the systems needed.
This is nothing to do with politics and everything to do with the implementation of proper governance and accessing the experience of those who have done this to improve things.
All good points. I think we tend to colour our judgement of Blair's abilities (or lack thereof) based on our political position. The appointment of former Prime Ministers and Presidents to administer government in transition nations is something I've long thought sensible. And for the record, I've worked a lot in such countries.
These countries lack cohesive government and the capacity to apply proper and meaningful management to the processes required. In plain English, they don't know what to do.
Regardless of what opinions we may have of past Prime Ministers, they have hands-on experience of running a democratic country and understand the nuts and bolts of the systems needed.
This is nothing to do with politics and everything to do with the implementation of proper governance and accessing the experience of those who have done this to improve things.
The point is that he is, in terms of Israel and Palestine, a relatively neutral figure with experience of governance and politics that goes back decades.
boyse7en said:
All good points. I think we tend to colour our judgement of Blair's abilities (or lack thereof) based on our political position.
The point is that he is, in terms of Israel and Palestine, a relatively neutral figure with experience of governance and politics that goes back decades.
They are all good points, but there must be hundreds of better candidates than him.The point is that he is, in terms of Israel and Palestine, a relatively neutral figure with experience of governance and politics that goes back decades.
For the record I am entirely politically agnosistc and still recognise him as an utter
.StevieBee said:
If you remove our perceptions of him from the equation, it makes sense.
The appointment of former Prime Ministers and Presidents to administer government in transition nations is something I've long thought sensible. And for the record, I've worked a lot in such countries.
These countries lack cohesive government and the capacity to apply proper and meaningful management to the processes required. In plain English, they don't know what to do.
Regardless of what opinions we may have of past Prime Ministers, they have hands-on experience of running a democratic country and understand the nuts and bolts of the systems needed.
This is nothing to do with politics and everything to do with the implementation of proper governance and accessing the experience of those who have done this to improve things.
I'd like to have some of what you're smoking tbh as that post is frankly delusional. The appointment of former Prime Ministers and Presidents to administer government in transition nations is something I've long thought sensible. And for the record, I've worked a lot in such countries.
These countries lack cohesive government and the capacity to apply proper and meaningful management to the processes required. In plain English, they don't know what to do.
Regardless of what opinions we may have of past Prime Ministers, they have hands-on experience of running a democratic country and understand the nuts and bolts of the systems needed.
This is nothing to do with politics and everything to do with the implementation of proper governance and accessing the experience of those who have done this to improve things.
Blair wouldn't understand 'proper governance' if it smacked him in the a**e first of all and certainly not after 2 decades of having his foundation greased up by various donors. Of all the people uniquely poorly suited to 'administering a ruined terrtory to improve things', Blair has probably got to be one of the top few who would have the hubris to want to be doing such a thing to be fair so i guess that clearly makes him a good choice.
BikeBikeBIke said:
I still don't get how that is going to work. Blair turns up in a helicopter and says "Hi, I'm replacing Hamas" and they say "Fine".
Isn't it more likely the Palestinians will shoot him in the face, set fire to the Helicopter and put the helicopter crew in a tunnel with the other hostages?
Oi, let's show some consideration for the helicopter crew Isn't it more likely the Palestinians will shoot him in the face, set fire to the Helicopter and put the helicopter crew in a tunnel with the other hostages?
Presumeably this is his Institute that'll be involved, rather that just Blair on his tod?
I didn't realise the scale of the Blair Institute - apparently it has hundreds of employees and mainly spends its time advising Governments how to conduct themselves. Seems it's pretty lucrative.
I didn't realise the scale of the Blair Institute - apparently it has hundreds of employees and mainly spends its time advising Governments how to conduct themselves. Seems it's pretty lucrative.
nikaiyo2 said:
On the radio this morning they are saying Bliar might be the leader of Gaza after a cease fire, have the poor Palestinians not suffered enough without having that 2 faced, smarmy liar foisted on them? Look at the mess he left the UK in after his attempt at leadership.
"things...... can only get better!!!!!"GadgeS3C said:
BikeBikeBIke said:
I still don't get how that is going to work. Blair turns up in a helicopter and says "Hi, I'm replacing Hamas" and they say "Fine".
Isn't it more likely the Palestinians will shoot him in the face, set fire to the Helicopter and put the helicopter crew in a tunnel with the other hostages?
Oi, let's show some consideration for the helicopter crew Isn't it more likely the Palestinians will shoot him in the face, set fire to the Helicopter and put the helicopter crew in a tunnel with the other hostages?
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