Manchester synagogue - serious incident
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Reports of a serious incident at a Synagogue in Crumpsall
Unconfirmed reports of multiple people stabbed
Andy Burnham has declared it a serious incident
https://www.bbc.com/news/live/cx2703lnww4t
Unconfirmed reports of multiple people stabbed
Andy Burnham has declared it a serious incident
https://www.bbc.com/news/live/cx2703lnww4t
Earthdweller said:
There's some pretty horrific footage of Police shooting terrorists dead at the scene and bodies lying around
It's available on X if you want to view, I won't post here for obvious reasons
Are you sure you are watching real footage of this incident? Obviously, the news still coming in but according to latest news reports the police have said that four people have been injured and one person (presumably the suspect) has been shot dead.It's available on X if you want to view, I won't post here for obvious reasons
RedWhiteMonkey said:
Earthdweller said:
There's some pretty horrific footage of Police shooting terrorists dead at the scene and bodies lying around
It's available on X if you want to view, I won't post here for obvious reasons
Are you sure you are watching real footage of this incident? Obviously, the news still coming in but according to latest news reports the police have said that four people have been injured and one person (presumably the suspect) has been shot dead.It's available on X if you want to view, I won't post here for obvious reasons
With reference to the description above of a video, is it clear there were terrorists (plural)? Sky news are speaking of a suspect (singular). They go on to say that person was shot. Presumably by the Police?
Irrespective of details what a terrible scene.
It s a Jewish festival today. For those not in the know. Fwiw this month is bursting with Jewish festivals so might not necessarily be a particular part of things.
Edited to add they (Sky news) have clarified the Police opened fire.
Also adding a car ramming .
Sake.
Irrespective of details what a terrible scene.
It s a Jewish festival today. For those not in the know. Fwiw this month is bursting with Jewish festivals so might not necessarily be a particular part of things.
Edited to add they (Sky news) have clarified the Police opened fire.
Also adding a car ramming .
Sake.
Edited by scenario8 on Thursday 2nd October 11:00
RedWhiteMonkey said:
Are you sure you are watching real footage of this incident? Obviously, the news still coming in but according to latest news reports the police have said that four people have been injured and one person (presumably the suspect) has been shot dead.
Video I watched seemed pretty real, and looks like the location given on the BBC website. https://maps.app.goo.gl/iCwxEuWAAYfKDhg39
RedWhiteMonkey said:
Earthdweller said:
There's some pretty horrific footage of Police shooting terrorists dead at the scene and bodies lying around
It's available on X if you want to view, I won't post here for obvious reasons
Are you sure you are watching real footage of this incident? Obviously, the news still coming in but according to latest news reports the police have said that four people have been injured and one person (presumably the suspect) has been shot dead.It's available on X if you want to view, I won't post here for obvious reasons
NerveAgent said:
RedWhiteMonkey said:
Earthdweller said:
There's some pretty horrific footage of Police shooting terrorists dead at the scene and bodies lying around
It's available on X if you want to view, I won't post here for obvious reasons
Are you sure you are watching real footage of this incident? Obviously, the news still coming in but according to latest news reports the police have said that four people have been injured and one person (presumably the suspect) has been shot dead.It's available on X if you want to view, I won't post here for obvious reasons
[i]"Police were called to the Heaton Park Hebrew Congregation Synagogue, on Middleton Road, Crumpsall, at 9.31am by a member of the public, stating he had witnessed a car being driven towards members of the public, and one man had been stabbed.
GMP declared PLATO and a major incident at 9.37am. Shots were fired by Greater Manchester Police firearms officers at 9.38am. One man has been shot, believed to be the offender.
Paramedics arrived at the scene at 9.41am and are tending to members of the public, currently four members of the public with injuries caused by both the vehicle and stab wounds.
Members of the public are asked to avoid the area while the police continue to deal with the incident."[/i]
Was there more than one attacker? What you say and what the police have said do not correlate.
scenario8 said:
With reference to the description above of a video, is it clear there were terrorists (plural)? Sky news are speaking of a suspect (singular). They go on to say that person was shot. Presumably by the Police?
Irrespective of details what a terrible scene.
In the video there are a number of lifeless bodies (not clear on my screen whether they are all the terrorists). One starts getting up and the Police fire another shot. Irrespective of details what a terrible scene.
I'm surprised the Police were on site all tooled up so quickly.
RedWhiteMonkey said:
Well, you say the footage shows the police shooting terrorists (plural) dead, yet the latest statement from GM Police is:
[i]"Police were called to the Heaton Park Hebrew Congregation Synagogue, on Middleton Road, Crumpsall, at 9.31am by a member of the public, stating he had witnessed a car being driven towards members of the public, and one man had been stabbed.
GMP declared PLATO and a major incident at 9.37am. Shots were fired by Greater Manchester Police firearms officers at 9.38am. One man has been shot, believed to be the offender.
Paramedics arrived at the scene at 9.41am and are tending to members of the public, currently four members of the public with injuries caused by both the vehicle and stab wounds.
Members of the public are asked to avoid the area while the police continue to deal with the incident."[/i]
Was there more than one attacker? What you say and what the police have said do not correlate.
The footage shows one person being shot and another person lying motionless in a pool of blood. (Presumably a victim)[i]"Police were called to the Heaton Park Hebrew Congregation Synagogue, on Middleton Road, Crumpsall, at 9.31am by a member of the public, stating he had witnessed a car being driven towards members of the public, and one man had been stabbed.
GMP declared PLATO and a major incident at 9.37am. Shots were fired by Greater Manchester Police firearms officers at 9.38am. One man has been shot, believed to be the offender.
Paramedics arrived at the scene at 9.41am and are tending to members of the public, currently four members of the public with injuries caused by both the vehicle and stab wounds.
Members of the public are asked to avoid the area while the police continue to deal with the incident."[/i]
Was there more than one attacker? What you say and what the police have said do not correlate.
Also are you getting me confused with someone else? I didn t say anything about number of attackers.
Edited by NerveAgent on Thursday 2nd October 11:18
NerveAgent said:
RedWhiteMonkey said:
Well, you say the footage shows the police shooting terrorists (plural) dead, yet the latest statement from GM Police is:
[i]"Police were called to the Heaton Park Hebrew Congregation Synagogue, on Middleton Road, Crumpsall, at 9.31am by a member of the public, stating he had witnessed a car being driven towards members of the public, and one man had been stabbed.
GMP declared PLATO and a major incident at 9.37am. Shots were fired by Greater Manchester Police firearms officers at 9.38am. One man has been shot, believed to be the offender.
Paramedics arrived at the scene at 9.41am and are tending to members of the public, currently four members of the public with injuries caused by both the vehicle and stab wounds.
Members of the public are asked to avoid the area while the police continue to deal with the incident."[/i]
Was there more than one attacker? What you say and what the police have said do not correlate.
The footage shows one person being shot and another person lying motionless in a pool of blood. [i]"Police were called to the Heaton Park Hebrew Congregation Synagogue, on Middleton Road, Crumpsall, at 9.31am by a member of the public, stating he had witnessed a car being driven towards members of the public, and one man had been stabbed.
GMP declared PLATO and a major incident at 9.37am. Shots were fired by Greater Manchester Police firearms officers at 9.38am. One man has been shot, believed to be the offender.
Paramedics arrived at the scene at 9.41am and are tending to members of the public, currently four members of the public with injuries caused by both the vehicle and stab wounds.
Members of the public are asked to avoid the area while the police continue to deal with the incident."[/i]
Was there more than one attacker? What you say and what the police have said do not correlate.
Anyway....i'm off to the synagogue.
NerveAgent said:
RedWhiteMonkey said:
Well, you say the footage shows the police shooting terrorists (plural) dead, yet the latest statement from GM Police is:
[i]"Police were called to the Heaton Park Hebrew Congregation Synagogue, on Middleton Road, Crumpsall, at 9.31am by a member of the public, stating he had witnessed a car being driven towards members of the public, and one man had been stabbed.
GMP declared PLATO and a major incident at 9.37am. Shots were fired by Greater Manchester Police firearms officers at 9.38am. One man has been shot, believed to be the offender.
Paramedics arrived at the scene at 9.41am and are tending to members of the public, currently four members of the public with injuries caused by both the vehicle and stab wounds.
Members of the public are asked to avoid the area while the police continue to deal with the incident."[/i]
Was there more than one attacker? What you say and what the police have said do not correlate.
The footage shows one person being shot and another person lying motionless in a pool of blood. [i]"Police were called to the Heaton Park Hebrew Congregation Synagogue, on Middleton Road, Crumpsall, at 9.31am by a member of the public, stating he had witnessed a car being driven towards members of the public, and one man had been stabbed.
GMP declared PLATO and a major incident at 9.37am. Shots were fired by Greater Manchester Police firearms officers at 9.38am. One man has been shot, believed to be the offender.
Paramedics arrived at the scene at 9.41am and are tending to members of the public, currently four members of the public with injuries caused by both the vehicle and stab wounds.
Members of the public are asked to avoid the area while the police continue to deal with the incident."[/i]
Was there more than one attacker? What you say and what the police have said do not correlate.
Being a pedant or a Pratt, calling the footage fake ?
These things are ALWAYS confused in initial stages
Whatever this is without doubt a very serious incident
Earthdweller said:
Not quite sure what point the Monkey above is trying to make
Being a pedant or a Pratt, calling the footage fake ?
These things are ALWAYS confused in initial stages
Whatever this is without doubt a very serious incident
I think you may be over-reacting to my posts (or possibly misunderstanding my intent). I simply asked a genuine question to try to understand what has happened, it sounds horrific. I have not said what you watched was fake, I just queried it because you said multiple attackers and the police said one attacker. Trying to establish whether it is one or multiple attackers is hardly being a pedant (or a pratt if you really must resort to name calling), it is an entirely valid question to ask.Being a pedant or a Pratt, calling the footage fake ?
These things are ALWAYS confused in initial stages
Whatever this is without doubt a very serious incident
g4ry13 said:
scenario8 said:
With reference to the description above of a video, is it clear there were terrorists (plural)? Sky news are speaking of a suspect (singular). They go on to say that person was shot. Presumably by the Police?
Irrespective of details what a terrible scene.
In the video there are a number of lifeless bodies (not clear on my screen whether they are all the terrorists). One starts getting up and the Police fire another shot. Irrespective of details what a terrible scene.
I'm surprised the Police were on site all tooled up so quickly.
g4ry13 said:
scenario8 said:
With reference to the description above of a video, is it clear there were terrorists (plural)? Sky news are speaking of a suspect (singular). They go on to say that person was shot. Presumably by the Police?
Irrespective of details what a terrible scene.
In the video there are a number of lifeless bodies (not clear on my screen whether they are all the terrorists). One starts getting up and the Police fire another shot. Irrespective of details what a terrible scene.
I'm surprised the Police were on site all tooled up so quickly.
In a major city like Manchester, a 7 minute response time for ARVs is probably the norm.
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