4 years for murder...
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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c3w5y5xyv53o
And that's the highest sentence.
With our prisons full I really think we should be looking at just dropping some people off on Foula or St Helena and just forgetting them. Maybe they'll make an Australia in a couple of hundred years.
And that's the highest sentence.
With our prisons full I really think we should be looking at just dropping some people off on Foula or St Helena and just forgetting them. Maybe they'll make an Australia in a couple of hundred years.
glazbagun said:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c3w5y5xyv53o
And that's the highest sentence.
With our prisons full I really think we should be looking at just dropping some people off on Foula or St Helena and just forgetting them. Maybe they'll make an Australia in a couple of hundred years.
Too late now of course but the chap should have knocked that first girl spark out. And that's the highest sentence.
With our prisons full I really think we should be looking at just dropping some people off on Foula or St Helena and just forgetting them. Maybe they'll make an Australia in a couple of hundred years.
TX.
Terminator X said:
glazbagun said:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c3w5y5xyv53o
And that's the highest sentence.
With our prisons full I really think we should be looking at just dropping some people off on Foula or St Helena and just forgetting them. Maybe they'll make an Australia in a couple of hundred years.
Too late now of course but the chap should have knocked that first girl spark out. And that's the highest sentence.
With our prisons full I really think we should be looking at just dropping some people off on Foula or St Helena and just forgetting them. Maybe they'll make an Australia in a couple of hundred years.
TX.
I imagine it would take a bit of practice, and be somewhat harder than it is on the tv.
At 75? I don't think it would have done any good unfortunately, and might have just enflamed the situation
(I was going to say "make it worse" but how worse can you get than dying?
So its more that the guy didn't know he was going to be killed by them, and so avoiding any retaliation might have increased his chance of them leaving him alone iyswim)
glazbagun said:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c3w5y5xyv53o
And that's the highest sentence.
With our prisons full I really think we should be looking at just dropping some people off on Foula or St Helena and just forgetting them. Maybe they'll make an Australia in a couple of hundred years.
This is obscene.And that's the highest sentence.
With our prisons full I really think we should be looking at just dropping some people off on Foula or St Helena and just forgetting them. Maybe they'll make an Australia in a couple of hundred years.
What the hell is going on in our justice system? He was from Bolivia so if they'd Tweeted they didn't care if he died they'd get 4 years inside. If they actually physically attack and kill him they still get 4 years.
....and yeah, dump them on an island. Let them attack each other and not random innocent people.
Poor guy.
JuanCarlosFandango said:
There needs to be something between manslaughter and full blown murder. Second degree murder perhaps. I can accept that they probably didn't intend to kill him but it wasn't negligence or diminished responsibility. It was completely unjustified violence against a frail victim.
Not really necessary. manslaughter carries quite a range of sentencing options as it is. These I believe range from 1-20 yrsGT03ROB said:
Not really necessary. manslaughter carries quite a range of sentencing options as it is. These I believe range from 1-20 yrs
There seems to be an awful lot of these cases where gratuitous and unnecessary violence leads to a sentence that would seem more appropriate for a careless accident. Maybe the sentencing guidance could be better, but this to me seems a wholly different category of crime to say dropping something off a ladder, or even to accidentally killing someone in a brawl they had willingly participated in. 
thole.JuanCarlosFandango said:
GT03ROB said:
Not really necessary. manslaughter carries quite a range of sentencing options as it is. These I believe range from 1-20 yrs
There seems to be an awful lot of these cases where gratuitous and unnecessary violence leads to a sentence that would seem more appropriate for a careless accident. Maybe the sentencing guidance could be better, but this to me seems a wholly different category of crime to say dropping something off a ladder, or even to accidentally killing someone in a brawl they had willingly participated in. Ian Geary said:
Terminator X said:
glazbagun said:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c3w5y5xyv53o
And that's the highest sentence.
With our prisons full I really think we should be looking at just dropping some people off on Foula or St Helena and just forgetting them. Maybe they'll make an Australia in a couple of hundred years.
Too late now of course but the chap should have knocked that first girl spark out. And that's the highest sentence.
With our prisons full I really think we should be looking at just dropping some people off on Foula or St Helena and just forgetting them. Maybe they'll make an Australia in a couple of hundred years.
TX.
I imagine it would take a bit of practice, and be somewhat harder than it is on the tv.
At 75? I don't think it would have done any good unfortunately, and might have just enflamed the situation
(I was going to say "make it worse" but how worse can you get than dying?
So its more that the guy didn't know he was going to be killed by them, and so avoiding any retaliation might have increased his chance of them leaving him alone iyswim)
I've never had to punch someone and I hope I never have to. A short 75 year old is no match for crowd of teenagers.
Given there was no provocation etc the sentences should have been much higher.
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