Advance UK/Ben Habib
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Considering the amount of politics that gets discussed in here I am very surprised this topic has not been started yet.
It seems at the moment that Reform have the traction but it is a long time until the next general election and do not believe Nigel Farage is the right man for the job.
Maybe some people have still not heard of Advance UK yet which is quite possible as they are not even a registered party yet, just in the process of registering.
https://www.advanceuk.org.uk/
Watched a lot of interviews lately with Ben Habib (former deputy leader at Reform/MEP) and I like what he is saying, he will certainly be getting my vote.
It seems at the moment that Reform have the traction but it is a long time until the next general election and do not believe Nigel Farage is the right man for the job.
Maybe some people have still not heard of Advance UK yet which is quite possible as they are not even a registered party yet, just in the process of registering.
https://www.advanceuk.org.uk/
Watched a lot of interviews lately with Ben Habib (former deputy leader at Reform/MEP) and I like what he is saying, he will certainly be getting my vote.
quigonjay said:
It seems at the moment that Reform have the traction but it is a long time until the next general election and do not believe Nigel Farage is the right man for the job.
There is no one who comes within a trillion miles of Our Nige. Every single other contender is either a no mark or criminal and usually both.
Ian Geary said:
See also: The America Party.
Like religions, nine out of ten new ones fail in their first year.
I'm not sure there are enough angry white blokes to keep two right of centre parties alive?
Angry right-ish blokes of other ethnicities are widely available.Like religions, nine out of ten new ones fail in their first year.
I'm not sure there are enough angry white blokes to keep two right of centre parties alive?
Angry right wing females have had the vote for about 100 years now.
If reform is just for angry white blokes, there's a whole venn diagram for another new party.
768 said:
Good luck to him, but he's a long way away from sufficient traction to matter.
At the moment, yes that is true, but was only started about 4 months ago. Ben set the target of 30k members before they started the process of registering with the election commission which was achieved faster than any other party in our history.He has the support of Tommy Robinson and his millions of followers and also Elon Musk if I am not mistaken. So once they are registered and release their manifesto and start campaigning I think everyone will be surprised at how quickly that traction swings in their favour.
quigonjay said:
768 said:
Good luck to him, but he's a long way away from sufficient traction to matter.
At the moment, yes that is true, but was only started about 4 months ago. Ben set the target of 30k members before they started the process of registering with the election commission which was achieved faster than any other party in our history.He has the support of Tommy Robinson and his millions of followers and also Elon Musk if I am not mistaken. So once they are registered and release their manifesto and start campaigning I think everyone will be surprised at how quickly that traction swings in their favour.
Randy Winkman said:
What sort of people do you think will be attracted by the names of Tommy Robinson and Elon Musk? And do you think that many people will be put off by them?
Hopefully people that support and want the same things as Ben is describing in his speech above, either way, just saying they have a large following, as for people being put off by them, you either support what Ben/Advance stand for or you don't, if you are a supporter you should welcome the party being promoted by whoever wants to do so (with exception of course), if you are put off by them so much as to go and support another party then you where probably not a supporter to start with so I guess it does not matter either way.Edited by quigonjay on Thursday 12th February 11:57
quigonjay said:
Randy Winkman said:
What sort of people do you think will be attracted by the names of Tommy Robinson and Elon Musk? And do you think that many people will be put off by them?
Hopefully people that support and want the same things as Ben is describing in his speech above, either way, just saying they have a large following, as for people being put off by them, you either support what Ben/Advance stand for or you don't, if you are a supporter you should welcome the party being promoted by whoever wants to do so (with exception of course), if you are put off by them so much as to go and support another party then you where probably not a supporter to start with so I guess it does not matter either way.Edited by quigonjay on Thursday 12th February 11:57
Looking at the News section of their website, it seems to be interviews with Ben, Dan Wootton, Tommy Robinson, Right Said Fred and their candidate in the by-election, Nick Buckley (MBE).
He seems a lovely chap - called many young British women w
es. https://searchlightmagazine.com/2026/02/advance-uk...
The parties policies seem somewhat crazy too. They're going to encourage repatriation of all those legally in the UK, including dual nationals.
I can't support that - my partner is a dual national who was born here, but has Swiss citizenship as well. No way she should be repatriated...
They also want to stop churches being converted for other use. So who exactly is going to pay for the upkeep of the empty buildings? Several Methodist chapels near me have been sold off and converted to houses.
There's a church in Colchester which is now a museum, one in Ipswich is a Tourist information centre, etc.
They're mandating that only English can be used by the public sector - won't go down well in Wales!
He seems a lovely chap - called many young British women w
es. https://searchlightmagazine.com/2026/02/advance-uk...The parties policies seem somewhat crazy too. They're going to encourage repatriation of all those legally in the UK, including dual nationals.
I can't support that - my partner is a dual national who was born here, but has Swiss citizenship as well. No way she should be repatriated...
They also want to stop churches being converted for other use. So who exactly is going to pay for the upkeep of the empty buildings? Several Methodist chapels near me have been sold off and converted to houses.
There's a church in Colchester which is now a museum, one in Ipswich is a Tourist information centre, etc.
They're mandating that only English can be used by the public sector - won't go down well in Wales!
rscott said:
He seems a lovely chap - called many young British women wes. https://searchlightmagazine.com/2026/02/advance-uk...
"save our girls" though right.es. https://searchlightmagazine.com/2026/02/advance-uk...Some Reform voters (who believe in in remigration) would be better off voting Advance UK, but tactically it's probably better to get a Reform party in and then try to vote for a party like Advance at the next election.
Personally, I don't see the demographics of the UK changing very much. We need to control immigration to sensible numbers and we need to integrate our immigrants better into society.
Personally, I don't see the demographics of the UK changing very much. We need to control immigration to sensible numbers and we need to integrate our immigrants better into society.
rscott said:
The parties policies seem somewhat crazy too. They're going to encourage repatriation of all those legally in the UK, including dual nationals.
I can't support that - my partner is a dual national who was born here, but has Swiss citizenship as well. No way she should be repatriated..
Encourage, not enforce, encourage via financial incentive and they may not say it but I think we know that they mean those that do not contribute in any way I can't support that - my partner is a dual national who was born here, but has Swiss citizenship as well. No way she should be repatriated..
butchstewie said:
rscott said:
He seems a lovely chap - called many young British women wes. https://searchlightmagazine.com/2026/02/advance-uk...
"save our girls" though right.es. https://searchlightmagazine.com/2026/02/advance-uk...Oddly enough it's misogynistic opinions like that which were held by the members of the grooming gangs. An irony which will likely fly over the head of the Tommeh supporters...
tangerine_sedge said:
Having those opinions singles him out as being a dick. Making those opinions public singles him out for being a stupid dick.
Oddly enough it's misogynistic opinions like that which were held by the members of the grooming gangs. An irony which will likely fly over the head of the Tommeh supporters...
I'll bet you if a Khan or a migrant had posted on social media calling British girls "wOddly enough it's misogynistic opinions like that which were held by the members of the grooming gangs. An irony which will likely fly over the head of the Tommeh supporters...
es" we'd be on about page fifty by now.One of Habib's lot does it though and there's absolute tumbleweed.
Funny that.
They are a party who are there to represent a more right wing leaning membership, just like Your Party are there to represent a more left leaning membership.
Nothing wrong with either IMO. Maybe having parties vacuuming up votes to either extreme of the political spectrum will help focus the main parties to stay on course...something both Labour and the Conservatives need to do if they have any chance of a majority vote in future.
Advance, Reform, Your, Greens etc are all gaining traction because of the abstract failure of the big two.
Nothing wrong with either IMO. Maybe having parties vacuuming up votes to either extreme of the political spectrum will help focus the main parties to stay on course...something both Labour and the Conservatives need to do if they have any chance of a majority vote in future.
Advance, Reform, Your, Greens etc are all gaining traction because of the abstract failure of the big two.
quigonjay said:
rscott said:
The parties policies seem somewhat crazy too. They're going to encourage repatriation of all those legally in the UK, including dual nationals.
I can't support that - my partner is a dual national who was born here, but has Swiss citizenship as well. No way she should be repatriated..
Encourage, not enforce, encourage via financial incentive and they may not say it but I think we know that they mean those that do not contribute in any way I can't support that - my partner is a dual national who was born here, but has Swiss citizenship as well. No way she should be repatriated..
Good. So that means Ben Habib will be encouraged to leave, as he appears to be a dual national of both the UK and Pakistan. As will Tommy, as he's a dual British/Irish citizen.
He proposes no new work visas except those from a small list of countries. It misses out several countries (including the one he was born in ) which provide a large number of skilled NHS resources. Yes, it's good to say we should employ our own doctors and nurses, but it would take 20 years or more to train sufficient personnel to replace foreign workers.
I see his "culture" policy proposes banning Sharia Councils but not Beth-Din courts.
It also suggests prohibiting dual nationality - why target Hayley Atwell, Richard E Grant, Liam Neeson, Colin Firth, Kemi Badenoch, amongst others?
Is he really targeting around 200,000 dual British-Irish citizens who live in England and Wales, or are we supposed to read between the lines again..
Last census reported 1.2m dual nationals in the UK. About half of them were born here.
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