For all the bleeding hearts
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I accept not all are like this and we must show some compassion.
BUT
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cly9rxlvp85o
BUT
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cly9rxlvp85o
Not sure if hearts are bleeding... From the article:
Paid removals are normal under the Facilitated Returns Scheme, with foreign nationals who agree to leave the UK being given £1,500. Downing Street said Kebatu had attempted to apply for the Facilitated Returns Scheme, but his bid was denied. He was turned down because the government wanted to remove him quickly and not pay him £1,500, the BBC understands. "Forcible" returns do not usually involve payments, but removal teams can decide to make a discretionary payment to ensure things go smoothly. In this case, after Kebatu threatened to disrupt the flight, there was concern that it would cost much more to re-book - running into several thousands of pounds - and it might have led to expensive legal action. Sources say the decision to make the payment to Kebatu was made by the removal team, not ministers. The payment avoided a "slower, more expensive process for the taxpayer, which would have included detention, a new flight and potentially fighting subsequent legal claims," the prime minister's spokesman said.
It got rid of him, at lower cost that otherwise likley.
Paid removals are normal under the Facilitated Returns Scheme, with foreign nationals who agree to leave the UK being given £1,500. Downing Street said Kebatu had attempted to apply for the Facilitated Returns Scheme, but his bid was denied. He was turned down because the government wanted to remove him quickly and not pay him £1,500, the BBC understands. "Forcible" returns do not usually involve payments, but removal teams can decide to make a discretionary payment to ensure things go smoothly. In this case, after Kebatu threatened to disrupt the flight, there was concern that it would cost much more to re-book - running into several thousands of pounds - and it might have led to expensive legal action. Sources say the decision to make the payment to Kebatu was made by the removal team, not ministers. The payment avoided a "slower, more expensive process for the taxpayer, which would have included detention, a new flight and potentially fighting subsequent legal claims," the prime minister's spokesman said.
It got rid of him, at lower cost that otherwise likley.
John145 said:
More evidence the government has zero respect for tax payer's money.
It could be argued that by choosing the more cost effective option than drawn out legal challenges, it is showing respect...Not that it's particularly palatable essentially bunging an individual such as this money to get lost, but if it's the pragmatic option, what else legally can be done?
ChocolateFrog said:
Is the idea that he serves his sentence in Ethiopia then?
Or does he just get away with that sexual assault?
The idea is we've got rid of him.Or does he just get away with that sexual assault?
It's that or pay £50K or whatever it costs to keep him in prison here and then send him back.
No easy answer here really someone's always going to think it should be the other option.
Chicken Chaser said:
If it's cost us a flight, 5 minders, £500 and a couple of nights in a hotel, it's a lot less than keeping at HMP for a few years. Hopefully serves his sentence in Ethiopia as well. I guess the fear is he turns up on the next boat to Dover.
Nope.The BBC Article said:
Kebatu arrived in Ethiopia's capital Addis Ababa early on Wednesday and was briefly held by officers at the airport before being released, Ethiopian police told the BBC.
There was "no legal basis for his continued detention", Ethiopian Federal Police spokesman Jaylan Abde said.
There was "no legal basis for his continued detention", Ethiopian Federal Police spokesman Jaylan Abde said.
Hang on, haven't Reform/Brexit/UKIP/Tory type people been saying for years that we should "just pay 'em to go home"? And they're still whinging when it happens? Over £500 plus a few expenses? Do they think it's cost free to deport people or something, do they think Home Office staff work out of love for The King and subsist on a diet of their own tears of joy?
What will make these f
king people happy? The heat death of the Universe being brought forward to Christmas Day this year?
What will make these f
king people happy? The heat death of the Universe being brought forward to Christmas Day this year?itcaptainslow said:
John145 said:
More evidence the government has zero respect for tax payer's money.
It could be argued that by choosing the more cost effective option than drawn out legal challenges, it is showing respect...Not that it's particularly palatable essentially bunging an individual such as this money to get lost, but if it's the pragmatic option, what else legally can be done?
John145 said:
itcaptainslow said:
John145 said:
More evidence the government has zero respect for tax payer's money.
It could be argued that by choosing the more cost effective option than drawn out legal challenges, it is showing respect...Not that it's particularly palatable essentially bunging an individual such as this money to get lost, but if it's the pragmatic option, what else legally can be done?
Think about that when you vote for Nigel Farage to become First Prime Minister of the New British Reich.
Skodillac said:
Everybody is entitled to due process.
Yes, but the process should be immediate return home without any delay whatsover. He's simply being returned to his home country not sanctioned in any way, there's no need for appeals it shouldn't even require a stated reason. Edited by BikeBikeBIke on Wednesday 29th October 17:17
Pitre said:
Five minders on the flight with him, apparently. Five return flights and an overnight hotel for all. Sheesh.
It’s normal for a return that could kick off.As I said in another thread, I used to work with a guy who used to be one of the security guys escorting deportees who were at risk of kicking off on the flight. They have to be surrounded on the flight and be well able to subdue the deportee should he decide not to behave. The airline involved whether chartered specially or a normal flight won’t countenance any risk to the plane or its crew and would insist on measures that some may think is excessive.
You want these people deported? Don’t be surprised if some take more effort than others.
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