£2.5 billion spent on special needs school transport in 2024
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https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-15243719/...
Had to read the article 3 times.... not quite sure how we are at this point?
Article states that the average is about £8k per child per year.
How exactly are we justifying this and where is the money going to come from over a fairly short time we are talking 10s of billions of pounds.
If a child goes to school for the full 11 years thats nearly £100k.
The mind boggles.
Had to read the article 3 times.... not quite sure how we are at this point?
Article states that the average is about £8k per child per year.
How exactly are we justifying this and where is the money going to come from over a fairly short time we are talking 10s of billions of pounds.
If a child goes to school for the full 11 years thats nearly £100k.
The mind boggles.
Bill said:
The 2.5 billion is the total spent school transport, not just SEND children.
Correct, as per hidden in the article (includes pupils who can t walk to their nearest suitable school due to distance.) Our local primary is less than a mile away, however as there are no pavements a bus is provided.
Also the local secondaries are over 3 miles away, therefore a bus is provided.
Very common in ruralshire.
Less frothing, more reading.
Badda said:
What s your solution?
Could start by looking why the numbers diagnosed with SEND have rocketed in absolute & proportional terms, and look at why so many kids need school transport provided.Could also look at some of the expensive cases and query if better solutions exist.
Like a lot of things eg PIP, spending has massively increased for no obvious reason, and rather than look the other way because it's all too hard maybe it would be better to understand why and if maybe the thresholds need to be adjusted or better enforced.
Mammasaid said:
Less frothing, more reading.
More than he did?? 
gotoPzero said:
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-15243719/...
Had to read the article 3 times.... not quite sure how we are at this point?
Article states that the average is about £8k per child per year.
How exactly are we justifying this and where is the money going to come from over a fairly short time we are talking 10s of billions of pounds.
If a child goes to school for the full 11 years thats nearly £100k.
The mind boggles.
Had to read the article 3 times.... not quite sure how we are at this point?
Article states that the average is about £8k per child per year.
How exactly are we justifying this and where is the money going to come from over a fairly short time we are talking 10s of billions of pounds.
If a child goes to school for the full 11 years thats nearly £100k.
The mind boggles.
Of course no mention of the number of village schools that have closed. The ever changing catchment areas etc. A family we know moved to a local village mainly because of the local Primary School, whist the eldest got to Year 5 before the school was closed the youngest had only started Year 1 fast forward to now and there are 2 taxis coming into the village one to take the eldest to Senior School the other to take the youngest to junior school.
Why can't mum take them well she has MS and dad works shifts and his shift time just don't work
Why can't mum take them well she has MS and dad works shifts and his shift time just don't work
The headline of the article says:
"Councils spent £2.5bn transporting children with special needs to school last year."
In the text of the article it says:
"Council spending on transport for school children with SEND has increased by 106 per cent in a decade, costing local authorities £1.52billion last year."
"Councils spent £2.5bn transporting children with special needs to school last year."
In the text of the article it says:
"Council spending on transport for school children with SEND has increased by 106 per cent in a decade, costing local authorities £1.52billion last year."
pheonix478 said:
"the NAO found one local authority reported transport costs of about £145,000 per year for one pupil."
Nothing to see here! How dare anyone mention it. Remarkable indeed.
I wouldn't claim to know much about this subject but do you think it's possible there might be the odd child who has severe challenges that might mean special vehicles are needed and/or perhaps multiple staff members?Nothing to see here! How dare anyone mention it. Remarkable indeed.
It sounds an extraordinary sum but if you do the maths it could be £500/day.
butchstewie said:
Angry at getting special needs kids to school now.
Remarkable.
You talking about me or the DM? Because no where in my post did I say I was angry.Remarkable.
2.5 billion. Its serious, serious money. I was shocked that its that much, if you asked me to guess I would have said maybe 100-200 million.
butchstewie said:
pheonix478 said:
"the NAO found one local authority reported transport costs of about £145,000 per year for one pupil."
Nothing to see here! How dare anyone mention it. Remarkable indeed.
I wouldn't claim to know much about this subject but do you think it's possible there might be the odd child who has severe challenges that might mean special vehicles are needed and/or perhaps multiple staff members?Nothing to see here! How dare anyone mention it. Remarkable indeed.
It sounds an extraordinary sum but if you do the maths it could be £500/day.
pheonix478 said:
More like 800 quid a day. If you think 145k is reasonable for tax payers to pay to get a kid to school, where do you draw the line? 250k, 500k a year? 1m?
Yeah it's probably more than 500 to be fair.I wouldn't say reasonable so much as I can understand how in the odd case it could happen.
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