"Bin Diesel" headline on the front page of the Sun

[spreadsheet monkey]

Yes, I know, ridiculous newspaper, slow news day etc.

But how real is the claim that "Diesel pumps will start to disappear in 4 years"?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cvgnvqqk9p9o

[Red9zero]

Coincidentally, I am just watching some overlanders on Youtube and they are struggling to find any filling stations selling diesel. It took them six attempts to find any. I suspect that may be more of a supply issue though. The Sun article seems to mention London specifically, which is more understandable I guess. Out here in the South West I'd have thought the commercial vehicles needing diesel would keep the demand going for a while yet.

[alangla]

spreadsheet monkey said:

Yes, I know, ridiculous newspaper, slow news day etc.

But how real is the claim that "Diesel pumps will start to disappear in 4 years"?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cvgnvqqk9p9o

Utterly unrealistic IMO. There will still be plenty of new diesel vans being built and these will still be numerous enough for there to be diesel on every forecourt.
Given newer petrol stations seem to go down the line of every grade on every pump, I can’t see the number of pumps per station declining either.

In saying all that, I think the number of forecourts will decline significantly over the next 10 or so years. By 2040 or so it ll likely be the current HGV stations that are left retailing petrol and diesel with the smaller stations gone or all electric.

[J4CKO]

Fuel stations will dwindle but think diesel will be around a long time as so many cars still use it, most haulage, generators, shipping and whatever.

A lot of petrol stations have closed already over the last 40 years but think that is, in a lot of cases down to the supermarkets swooping in and setting up, putting smaller stations out of business. We had four locally, that dropped to three a few years back.

I suspect some will be converted to charging, but reckon it will take another 30 years before they are mostly gone, dont think anyone will have a personal diesel car in the 2050s, but remains to be seen how much of the other use gets electrified.

[JoshSm]

Must depend on where you are, they've been busy building new petrol stations around me. Proper big branded sites too (couple of Shell, couple of BP), and it wasn't exactly a fuel desert before.

They're not even filling in a gap in the Costa/Greggs/mini-supermarket space.

Seems to just be demand.

[alangla]

JoshSm said:

Must depend on where you are, they've been busy building new petrol stations around me. Proper big branded sites too (couple of Shell, couple of BP), and it wasn't exactly a fuel desert before.

They're not even filling in a gap in the Costa/Greggs/mini-supermarket space.

Seems to just be demand.

EG seem to be spending a fair bit on building not-quite-MSAs just now, massive fuel company branded sites with HGV pumps, fast food, big shop etc, right next to major motorway junctions. I’m thinking that might be the way things go in the years ahead with the smaller stations closing.