Gorton and Denton by-election candidates
Discussion
Looks like the full list is in and what a varied bunch it is
The Tory candidate is a woman called Charlotte Cadden. Ex plod
Labour have also gone for a woman Angeliki Stogia. She is a councillor for Whalley Range and claims to have walked the streets of this constituency. That is definitely NOT the same as walking the streets of Whalley Range which is a totally different kind of job.
Matt Goodwin is a chap who wouldn t look out of place debt collecting for the Kray twins He is the reform candidate. Whether it will be a good win for the constituents of Gorton and Denton is one for the future.
Jackie Pearcey is standing for the Liberal Democrats and confirms a theory that the Lib Dems have no interest in having any totty in the party.
Hannah Spencer is standing for the Green Party. To give her credit she used to be a plumber and plumbers do proper jobs. She says she intends to be laser focused on ending Britain s enabling of Israel s genocide . Something that is sure to be top of any constituents concerns. She previously contested the 2024 Greater Manchester Mayor elections. She didn t win then and I don t think she will win this one either. Having said that being mayor of Manchester must be a really s
te job as the current mayor wanted out of it after just under 2 years.
Sebastian Moor is standing for the Social Democratic Party (SDP) he is only 40 odd years too late. In the early 80s there was a great sense of (misplaced in my opinion) optimism about the SDP
Here is the SDP s Dr David Owen in his heyday.
And here he is now writing letters in support of Mr Moore.
Last but not perhaps least is Joseph O'Meachair decided to form his own party and is standing for the Rejoin EU Party (REUP)
The Tory candidate is a woman called Charlotte Cadden. Ex plod
Labour have also gone for a woman Angeliki Stogia. She is a councillor for Whalley Range and claims to have walked the streets of this constituency. That is definitely NOT the same as walking the streets of Whalley Range which is a totally different kind of job.
Matt Goodwin is a chap who wouldn t look out of place debt collecting for the Kray twins He is the reform candidate. Whether it will be a good win for the constituents of Gorton and Denton is one for the future.
Jackie Pearcey is standing for the Liberal Democrats and confirms a theory that the Lib Dems have no interest in having any totty in the party.
Hannah Spencer is standing for the Green Party. To give her credit she used to be a plumber and plumbers do proper jobs. She says she intends to be laser focused on ending Britain s enabling of Israel s genocide . Something that is sure to be top of any constituents concerns. She previously contested the 2024 Greater Manchester Mayor elections. She didn t win then and I don t think she will win this one either. Having said that being mayor of Manchester must be a really s
te job as the current mayor wanted out of it after just under 2 years.Sebastian Moor is standing for the Social Democratic Party (SDP) he is only 40 odd years too late. In the early 80s there was a great sense of (misplaced in my opinion) optimism about the SDP
Here is the SDP s Dr David Owen in his heyday.
And here he is now writing letters in support of Mr Moore.
Last but not perhaps least is Joseph O'Meachair decided to form his own party and is standing for the Rejoin EU Party (REUP)
Edited by anonymoususer on Sunday 1st February 17:43
Edited by anonymoususer on Sunday 1st February 17:44
We're in for a fun ride I think
Labour screaming that the reform candidate isn't from Manchester ... how very dare they
Then announcing an immigrant, a Greek woman, as their candidate who in a very heavily accented voice declared herself a proud Manc ... sorry our kid you aren't
You couldn't make that one up
The Greens a posh loon from Hale who looks about 12, says she's a plasterer but really a professional politician who wants to abolish the Police and legalise prostitution and drugs and wants open borders
The Lib Dem's and Tory's are an irrelevance
It's gonna get dirty I think
Labour screaming that the reform candidate isn't from Manchester ... how very dare they
Then announcing an immigrant, a Greek woman, as their candidate who in a very heavily accented voice declared herself a proud Manc ... sorry our kid you aren't
You couldn't make that one up
The Greens a posh loon from Hale who looks about 12, says she's a plasterer but really a professional politician who wants to abolish the Police and legalise prostitution and drugs and wants open borders
The Lib Dem's and Tory's are an irrelevance
It's gonna get dirty I think
Earthdweller said:
We're in for a fun ride I think
Labour screaming that the reform candidate isn't from Manchester ... how very dare they
Then announcing an immigrant, a Greek woman, as their candidate who in a very heavily accented voice declared herself a proud Manc ... sorry our kid you aren't
You couldn't make that one up
The Greens a posh loon from Hale who looks about 12, says she's a plasterer but really a professional politician who wants to abolish the Police and legalise prostitution and drugs and wants open borders
The Lib Dem's and Tory's are an irrelevance
It's gonna get dirty I think
She has lived in Manchester for 30 years to be fair.Labour screaming that the reform candidate isn't from Manchester ... how very dare they
Then announcing an immigrant, a Greek woman, as their candidate who in a very heavily accented voice declared herself a proud Manc ... sorry our kid you aren't
You couldn't make that one up
The Greens a posh loon from Hale who looks about 12, says she's a plasterer but really a professional politician who wants to abolish the Police and legalise prostitution and drugs and wants open borders
The Lib Dem's and Tory's are an irrelevance
It's gonna get dirty I think
Still bizarre how much coverage this by election is getting
chrispmartha said:
Earthdweller said:
We're in for a fun ride I think
Labour screaming that the reform candidate isn't from Manchester ... how very dare they
Then announcing an immigrant, a Greek woman, as their candidate who in a very heavily accented voice declared herself a proud Manc ... sorry our kid you aren't
You couldn't make that one up
The Greens a posh loon from Hale who looks about 12, says she's a plasterer but really a professional politician who wants to abolish the Police and legalise prostitution and drugs and wants open borders
The Lib Dem's and Tory's are an irrelevance
It's gonna get dirty I think
She has lived in Manchester for 30 years to be fair.Labour screaming that the reform candidate isn't from Manchester ... how very dare they
Then announcing an immigrant, a Greek woman, as their candidate who in a very heavily accented voice declared herself a proud Manc ... sorry our kid you aren't
You couldn't make that one up
The Greens a posh loon from Hale who looks about 12, says she's a plasterer but really a professional politician who wants to abolish the Police and legalise prostitution and drugs and wants open borders
The Lib Dem's and Tory's are an irrelevance
It's gonna get dirty I think
Still bizarre how much coverage this by election is getting
If my feed is accurate it's between Reform and the greens.
I'd guess there will be some tactical voting going on. If I was a labour voter I'd probably vote green given that lot.
ChocolateFrog said:
chrispmartha said:
Earthdweller said:
We're in for a fun ride I think
Labour screaming that the reform candidate isn't from Manchester ... how very dare they
Then announcing an immigrant, a Greek woman, as their candidate who in a very heavily accented voice declared herself a proud Manc ... sorry our kid you aren't
You couldn't make that one up
The Greens a posh loon from Hale who looks about 12, says she's a plasterer but really a professional politician who wants to abolish the Police and legalise prostitution and drugs and wants open borders
The Lib Dem's and Tory's are an irrelevance
It's gonna get dirty I think
She has lived in Manchester for 30 years to be fair.Labour screaming that the reform candidate isn't from Manchester ... how very dare they
Then announcing an immigrant, a Greek woman, as their candidate who in a very heavily accented voice declared herself a proud Manc ... sorry our kid you aren't
You couldn't make that one up
The Greens a posh loon from Hale who looks about 12, says she's a plasterer but really a professional politician who wants to abolish the Police and legalise prostitution and drugs and wants open borders
The Lib Dem's and Tory's are an irrelevance
It's gonna get dirty I think
Still bizarre how much coverage this by election is getting
If my feed is accurate it's between Reform and the greens.
I'd guess there will be some tactical voting going on. If I was a labour voter I'd probably vote green given that lot.
I've got to be honest with you. I edited the original post as it did reference a couple of things. These things have been mentioned by others. I edited it as it's hard sometimes to point something out without immediately being labelled as some "ist" or other.
Anyway the candidates are a mixed bunch. It is almost as if the various parties have thought we will put up people that are a bit alternative because we dont really think we can win.
The greens though probably do think their candidate can
Anyway the candidates are a mixed bunch. It is almost as if the various parties have thought we will put up people that are a bit alternative because we dont really think we can win.
The greens though probably do think their candidate can
Getragdogleg said:
A very thorough synopsis.
Are you available to do other areas as the need arises?
I think there is a distinct possibility of that happeningAre you available to do other areas as the need arises?
Edited by anonymoususer on Sunday 1st February 21:12
Times may well be changing.
There has been a tendency over the last two or three elections for people to vote for particular causes rather than parties. Labour lost their, what was called, red wall seats, and the tories lost their minds. The voting changes did not follow the 'same everywhere' of historical elections but there were different trends in otherwise safe seats. Very strange. It makes individual seats almost impossible to predict. There was a lot of tactical voting, or that's what was suggested, mainly by the party faithful, but who knows?
It may be a reform walk-over, who can tell? the SDP, who are fielding a candidate, were once on 40% approval rating. I voted for them, but my choice didn't get in. The gang of four, that's Williams, Rodgers and Jenkins, plus some hanger-on, were an impressive bunch and weren't afraid to answer problem questions. I think naïve is the word I'm looking for. If history is anything to go by, the reform flame is already flickering. There's a fair bit of similarity between them (except intellectual level of the leaders) in that the SDP took MPs from both sides of the divide.
Since their loss, the tories have been remarkably unimpressive. Their challenge come from the right, and Badenoch is saying she's got no time for the centre of her party. Both the labour and tory leaders could be under pressure if they both fail badly.
By-elections mean little on their own. In the present climate, they mean even less, but each of the parties will have some great soundbites. The results will be heralded as a significant change in the population's political drift in the media. Some will agree, others won't. It will be interesting though; I'll watch intently but will try not to say anything as I'll almost certainly be wrong as to reasons. Just like almost everyone else.
There has been a tendency over the last two or three elections for people to vote for particular causes rather than parties. Labour lost their, what was called, red wall seats, and the tories lost their minds. The voting changes did not follow the 'same everywhere' of historical elections but there were different trends in otherwise safe seats. Very strange. It makes individual seats almost impossible to predict. There was a lot of tactical voting, or that's what was suggested, mainly by the party faithful, but who knows?
It may be a reform walk-over, who can tell? the SDP, who are fielding a candidate, were once on 40% approval rating. I voted for them, but my choice didn't get in. The gang of four, that's Williams, Rodgers and Jenkins, plus some hanger-on, were an impressive bunch and weren't afraid to answer problem questions. I think naïve is the word I'm looking for. If history is anything to go by, the reform flame is already flickering. There's a fair bit of similarity between them (except intellectual level of the leaders) in that the SDP took MPs from both sides of the divide.
Since their loss, the tories have been remarkably unimpressive. Their challenge come from the right, and Badenoch is saying she's got no time for the centre of her party. Both the labour and tory leaders could be under pressure if they both fail badly.
By-elections mean little on their own. In the present climate, they mean even less, but each of the parties will have some great soundbites. The results will be heralded as a significant change in the population's political drift in the media. Some will agree, others won't. It will be interesting though; I'll watch intently but will try not to say anything as I'll almost certainly be wrong as to reasons. Just like almost everyone else.
I am surprised that none of the large "MP for Gaza East" independent parties (Galloway etc) have put someone up, the constituency looks like a good prospect for them.
It's going to be the Greens, and the candidate choice is unimportant, unless she turns out to be secretly against having pronouns, or some other lefty sin.
It's an irrelevant constituency, but a very relevant outcome. Labour losing the seat, plus then having their backsides handed to them in the local elections they haven't suppressed, means the end of Keir. Rayner and Streeting are already prepped for the summer leadership contest.
It's going to be the Greens, and the candidate choice is unimportant, unless she turns out to be secretly against having pronouns, or some other lefty sin.
It's an irrelevant constituency, but a very relevant outcome. Labour losing the seat, plus then having their backsides handed to them in the local elections they haven't suppressed, means the end of Keir. Rayner and Streeting are already prepped for the summer leadership contest.
It is a bit of an odd constituency. A strange shape and with some very different areas included.
I've no idea who will win it.
If Labour do not win, it will be an upset?
The Green candidates is a woman in her 30s -a plumber, not a plasterer. She is currently a councillor in Trafford.
Reform are just reactionary fist shakers with a lot of the madder former Tories.
The Lib Dems or Tories are unlikely to win it.
I've no idea who will win it.
If Labour do not win, it will be an upset?
The Green candidates is a woman in her 30s -a plumber, not a plasterer. She is currently a councillor in Trafford.
Reform are just reactionary fist shakers with a lot of the madder former Tories.
The Lib Dems or Tories are unlikely to win it.
As much as I would like Reform to win, I can’t help feeling it would be better for the Country if Labour retained this seat. A Labour loss will precipitate a leadership election. As much as I despise Starmer , he has one thing going for him. That is, that he is utterly useless. If he is replaced we get a more Leftwing Givernment, that will be an even greater disaster than the one we have……. Ultimate.y I wou.d like to see the Government completely fail in every single thing that it is doing and to have a General election but that’s years away.
So in the meantime if we could keep the current incompetence that would be the actual best outcome for the Country
So in the meantime if we could keep the current incompetence that would be the actual best outcome for the Country
Newc said:
I am surprised that none of the large "MP for Gaza East" independent parties (Galloway etc) have put someone up, the constituency looks like a good prospect for them.
It's going to be the Greens, and the candidate choice is unimportant, unless she turns out to be secretly against having pronouns, or some other lefty sin.
Galloway himself stood in the predecessor seat of Manchester Gorton at the 2017 election, finishing 3rd behind the Tories. Labour only had a slim majority of 31,730 that time out.It's going to be the Greens, and the candidate choice is unimportant, unless she turns out to be secretly against having pronouns, or some other lefty sin.
The Greens were third in 2024 just behind Reform, 2nd in neighbouring Rusholme, so definitely polled strongly here last time out, they also did well in 2019 in the predecessor seat of Withington, though pretty poorly in Gorton and Denton & Reddish. I agree with the others that it’s probably going to be a tight 3-way between Labour, Reform and the Greens. At a guess Greens first, Reform 2nd, Labour 3rd. If Burnham had been selected this would probably have been a straightforward Labour win in what (Gorton) was about the safest seat in the country.
Earthdweller said:
We're in for a fun ride I think
Labour screaming that the reform candidate isn't from Manchester ... how very dare they
Then announcing an immigrant, a Greek woman, as their candidate who in a very heavily accented voice declared herself a proud Manc ... sorry our kid you aren't
You couldn't make that one up
The Greens a posh loon from Hale who looks about 12, says she's a plasterer but really a professional politician who wants to abolish the Police and legalise prostitution and drugs and wants open borders
The Lib Dem's and Tory's are an irrelevance
It's gonna get dirty I think
Legalise prostitution you say? So that will please the streetwalker from Whaley Range.Labour screaming that the reform candidate isn't from Manchester ... how very dare they
Then announcing an immigrant, a Greek woman, as their candidate who in a very heavily accented voice declared herself a proud Manc ... sorry our kid you aren't
You couldn't make that one up
The Greens a posh loon from Hale who looks about 12, says she's a plasterer but really a professional politician who wants to abolish the Police and legalise prostitution and drugs and wants open borders
The Lib Dem's and Tory's are an irrelevance
It's gonna get dirty I think
O/T Some of my college mates lived at a B&B in Demesne Road in their first year and the lamppost out front of the next door house was a regular pickup spot.
pghstochaj said:
mick987 said:
It will be a closer vote than last time, but at the end of the day with a 40% of the constituency Muslim there is no way Labour will lose.
It s not 40% Muslim though. Gassing Station | News, Politics & Economics | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff