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Rapidly spiraling out of control it seems.
Reported to police, insider and highly sensitive gov data given to Epstein 4 secs after Mandy gets it.
Starmer in trouble - saying he should give up peerage.
Astonishing.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/clynp40ekrdt
Reported to police, insider and highly sensitive gov data given to Epstein 4 secs after Mandy gets it.
Starmer in trouble - saying he should give up peerage.
Astonishing.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/clynp40ekrdt
I'm glad you didn't name this thread 'Lord Mandelson...' otherwise it would annoying me as much as seeing the Sir Kier Starmer thread. Sir...ffs.
Anyway...I don't watch the news, so I'm not that up to speed on the grubby details. From what I've read...my life is clearly very boring in compariso! It does make you wonder if certain types enjoy the risk of getting caught? Otherwise, why let anyone take pictures?
Weird, very weird.
Anyway...I don't watch the news, so I'm not that up to speed on the grubby details. From what I've read...my life is clearly very boring in compariso! It does make you wonder if certain types enjoy the risk of getting caught? Otherwise, why let anyone take pictures?
Weird, very weird.
Pupp said:
"Since then, both the SNP and Reform UK confirmed they have reported Mandelson to the Metropolitan Police."But not Labour...
Grubby
The state of it.
Slow.Patrol said:
Pupp said:
"Since then, both the SNP and Reform UK confirmed they have reported Mandelson to the Metropolitan Police."But not Labour...
Grubby
The state of it.
Pupp said:
Slow.Patrol said:
Pupp said:
"Since then, both the SNP and Reform UK confirmed they have reported Mandelson to the Metropolitan Police."But not Labour...
Grubby
The state of it.
"Labour MP Emily Thornberry asks whether "police should be involved" following recent revelations in the Epstein files.
She tells MPs that Mandelson "sent on market sensitive information to Epstein" and told him "about matters of national security".
"Surely this is not a matter of whether Peter Mandelson should be in the House of Lords, this is a matter of whether the police should be involved".
Slow.Patrol said:
Pupp said:
Slow.Patrol said:
Pupp said:
"Since then, both the SNP and Reform UK confirmed they have reported Mandelson to the Metropolitan Police."But not Labour...
Grubby
The state of it.
"Labour MP Emily Thornberry asks whether "police should be involved" following recent revelations in the Epstein files.
She tells MPs that Mandelson "sent on market sensitive information to Epstein" and told him "about matters of national security".
"Surely this is not a matter of whether Peter Mandelson should be in the House of Lords, this is a matter of whether the police should be involved".
Timothy Bucktu said:
Patio said:
No way Labour brass didn't know about this
Should have binned him off long ago, now they look weak/complicit
Only a few months ago he was the US Ambassador!Should have binned him off long ago, now they look weak/complicit
Keir with his finger on the pulse as usual

I think perhaps there's more than misconduct in public office I think there's possibly serious financial crimes here, some form of insider trading ?
It certainly effects the EU and the US and it's something the US certainly take extremely seriously
Could we yet see Mandleson back in the US, but this time in handcuffs on an extradition warrant ?
It certainly effects the EU and the US and it's something the US certainly take extremely seriously
Could we yet see Mandleson back in the US, but this time in handcuffs on an extradition warrant ?
Earthdweller said:
I think perhaps there's more than misconduct in public office I think there's possibly serious financial crimes here, some form of insider trading ?
It certainly effects the EU and the US and it's something the US certainly take extremely seriously
Could we yet see Mandleson back in the US, but this time in handcuffs on an extradition warrant ?
The US takes it seriously unless you do it on a scale to make a sIt certainly effects the EU and the US and it's something the US certainly take extremely seriously
Could we yet see Mandleson back in the US, but this time in handcuffs on an extradition warrant ?
t load of money and can use that to buy influence to avoid issues. And then an email exchange where JE was asking what Mandelson had decided to which is responded he is "desp for CuAm"

edit: Oh and then there's a photo just found with Mandelson having a sock taken off by a person whose face is redacted:
https://www.reddit.com/r/LabourUK/comments/1qu4l3f...
edit: Oh and then there's a photo just found with Mandelson having a sock taken off by a person whose face is redacted:
https://www.reddit.com/r/LabourUK/comments/1qu4l3f...
Edited by Gareth79 on Monday 2nd February 20:28
https://x.com/peston/status/2018393320540582348?s=...
Gordon Brown advisor:
“I am wondering what else was sent on [by Mandelson] from me or from anyone else in or around No 10. Peter was copied in on anything of relevance to business…There was an internal culture of trust and confidentiality even when people disagreed. Peter broke that.
“[His forwarding of emails] is a complete betrayal of trust. I agree with Gordon Brown that there must be a full enquiry into all
messages sent to Epstein in this period. This can’t be the only one. Peter should do the honourable thing and resign from the Lords”.
Gordon Brown advisor:
“I am wondering what else was sent on [by Mandelson] from me or from anyone else in or around No 10. Peter was copied in on anything of relevance to business…There was an internal culture of trust and confidentiality even when people disagreed. Peter broke that.
“[His forwarding of emails] is a complete betrayal of trust. I agree with Gordon Brown that there must be a full enquiry into all
messages sent to Epstein in this period. This can’t be the only one. Peter should do the honourable thing and resign from the Lords”.
I'm not really a fan of Barry Manilow, but he got it right about Mandelson:-
I remember all my life
Raining down as cold as ice
Shadows of a man
A face through a window cryin' in the night
The night goes into
Morning just another day
Happy people pass my way
Looking in their eyes
I see a memory
I never realized
How happy you made me
Oh Mandy well
You came and you gave without taking
But I sent you away
Oh, Mandy
Well, you kissed me and stopped me from shaking
And I need you today
Oh, Mandy!
I'm standing on the edge of time
I've walked away when love was mine
Caught up in a world of uphill climbing
The tears are in my mind and nothin' is rhyming
Oh Mandy well,
You came and you gave without taking
But I sent you away.
Oh, Mandy
Well, you kissed me and stopped me from shaking,
And I need you today
Oh, Mandy!
Yesterday's a dream
I face the morning
Crying on a breeze
The pain is calling
Oh Mandy
Well, you came and you gave without taking
But I sent you away oh, Mandy
Well, you kissed me and stopped me from shaking
And I need you today oh, Mandy
You came and you gave without taking
But I sent you away oh, Mandy
You kissed me and stopped me from shaking
And I need you
I remember all my life
Raining down as cold as ice
Shadows of a man
A face through a window cryin' in the night
The night goes into
Morning just another day
Happy people pass my way
Looking in their eyes
I see a memory
I never realized
How happy you made me
Oh Mandy well
You came and you gave without taking

But I sent you away
Oh, Mandy
Well, you kissed me and stopped me from shaking
And I need you today
Oh, Mandy!
I'm standing on the edge of time
I've walked away when love was mine
Caught up in a world of uphill climbing

The tears are in my mind and nothin' is rhyming
Oh Mandy well,
You came and you gave without taking
But I sent you away.
Oh, Mandy
Well, you kissed me and stopped me from shaking,
And I need you today
Oh, Mandy!
Yesterday's a dream
I face the morning
Crying on a breeze
The pain is calling
Oh Mandy
Well, you came and you gave without taking

But I sent you away oh, Mandy
Well, you kissed me and stopped me from shaking
And I need you today oh, Mandy
You came and you gave without taking
But I sent you away oh, Mandy
You kissed me and stopped me from shaking
And I need you
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