PMQs now a joke
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Mr Squarekins

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1,560 posts

87 months

Wednesday 11th February
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I watched PMQs today. Linsay Hoyle needs to do a proper job.

No questions answered. Just responses to questions with totally unrelated rubbish.

Q 'Are you doing anything about that pigeon?'

A 'Well Ford Mondoes were popular in the 90s'

No answers remotely responded to questions asked.

In the real business world, the room would be asking 'what the f*&I!'

Terminator X

20,017 posts

229 months

Wednesday 11th February
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They should be forced to stand there until they answer the fking question. Poor form in letting them off.

TX.

DeadShed

8,935 posts

164 months

Wednesday 11th February
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Mr Squarekins said:
In the real business world, the room would be asking 'what the f*&I!'
Spot the person who has never worked at a large company. Senior executives are masters of BS and avoiding giving a clear answer.

ChocolateFrog

34,954 posts

198 months

Wednesday 11th February
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I feel like it was always an orchestrated performance.

They just stick to their rehearsed scripts.

Mr Squarekins

Original Poster:

1,560 posts

87 months

Wednesday 11th February
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DeadShed said:
Spot the person who has never worked at a large company. Senior executives are masters of BS and avoiding giving a clear answer.
You couldn't be more wrong about me wink

Depends on the exec.


gruffalo

8,121 posts

251 months

Wednesday 11th February
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Mr Squarekins said:
DeadShed said:
Spot the person who has never worked at a large company. Senior executives are masters of BS and avoiding giving a clear answer.
You couldn't be more wrong about me wink

Depends on the exec.
BMW by any chance?


Patio

1,771 posts

36 months

Wednesday 11th February
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Wonder what the Estonians thought of the complete embarrassing shambles that it is

Ridgemont

9,124 posts

156 months

Wednesday 11th February
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DeadShed said:
Mr Squarekins said:
In the real business world, the room would be asking 'what the f*&I!'
Spot the person who has never worked at a large company. Senior executives are masters of BS and avoiding giving a clear answer.
hehe

Yes. Was on a teams call yesterday as the CTO announced to 400 odd muted participants a round of redundancies.
One persistent chap in Chennai kept on posting the same question in chat (‘the redundancy terms despite your statement seem unduly harsh, would it not make more sense to compensate accordingly’) and his question got deleted twice and then dealt with obliquely by a reference to an ‘extremely generous 4 month period to find another role’.

These guys make politicians look like rank amateurs, especially after watching Starmer lose his st at PMQs today. No way would a corporate lose the room like that. But they are way more ruthless.

Rufus Stone

12,578 posts

81 months

Thursday 12th February
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Mr Squarekins said:
I watched PMQs today. Linsay Hoyle needs to do a proper job.

No questions answered. Just responses to questions with totally unrelated rubbish.

Q 'Are you doing anything about that pigeon?'

A 'Well Ford Mondoes were popular in the 90s'

No answers remotely responded to questions asked.

In the real business world, the room would be asking 'what the f*&I!'
It's not just the answers, it's the questions too.

They are mostly just for political point scoring and nothing to do with government business, legislation or the running of the country.

200bhp

5,772 posts

244 months

Thursday 12th February
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Its the same the world over - The PM (of Australia) came to my place of work a few years ago, mostly to pose for the cameras and try to win some votes. He did his daily news briefing whilst here and I was surprised how bad it was. I knew politicians don't like to answer the question, but never realised it was THAT bad!

He stood talking to the hoard of reporters (I wont call then journalists!) for 30 minutes, a constant stream of soundbites with the occasional statement that contradicted what he said a few minutes earlier. All for 15 seconds coverage in the evening TV news.

Not once did one of the reporters question what was said, nor did they ask a critical or difficult question.

768

19,643 posts

121 months

Thursday 12th February
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Rufus Stone said:
It's not just the answers, it's the questions too.

They are mostly just for political point scoring and nothing to do with government business, legislation or the running of the country.
You feel like the PM being questioned on his repeated links to child sex offending within government, at a time when his government have been kicking the can on a rape gang inquiry, is nothing to do with government business, legislation, or the running of the country?

Rufus Stone

12,578 posts

81 months

Thursday 12th February
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768 said:
You feel like the PM being questioned on his repeated links to child sex offending within government, at a time when his government have been kicking the can on a rape gang inquiry, is nothing to do with government business, legislation, or the running of the country?
What links are those? Appointing someone who was friends with a sex offender isn't a link.

If the Tories were so keen on a full blown enquiry into the rape gangs they could have commissioned one when in power, but they didn't. Badenock whining Labour isn't moving fast enough is a tad hypocritical don't you think?

PMQ's is just a pantomime these days, and both sides of the house are responsible for that.


768

19,643 posts

121 months

Thursday 12th February
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That's a yes then.

Michael_B

1,726 posts

125 months

Thursday 12th February
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Rufus Stone said:
PMQ's is just a pantomime these days, and both sides of the house are responsible for that.
Oh no they’re not!

chemistry

3,220 posts

134 months

Thursday 12th February
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Rufus Stone said:
PMQ's is just a pantomime these days, and both sides of the house are responsible for that.
Indeed. It’s indicative of our politics more generally; entirely performative rather than focussed on actually doing anything constructive.

Slow.Patrol

4,753 posts

39 months

Thursday 12th February
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My ears pricked up when Kemi mentioned the rape gangs.

Plenty of apologising to Epstein's victims, but not the rape gangs on or home soil.

The inquiry can has been well and truly kicked.

cliffords

3,858 posts

48 months

Thursday 12th February
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chemistry said:
Rufus Stone said:
PMQ's is just a pantomime these days, and both sides of the house are responsible for that.
Indeed. It s indicative of our politics more generally; entirely performative rather than focussed on actually doing anything constructive.
I actually feel insulted and ashamed of their behaviour. Answering each question with an insult and a list of so called achievements. Not actually answering the question. The use of humour to degraded the other party and juvenile one liners to end each exchange. It's a poor circus and not fit for the occasion, gathering or institution. Totally shameful.

119

18,015 posts

61 months

Thursday 12th February
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I never normally watch it that much but it appears to have become a bit of a stage show, as i understand the questions are shared beforehand?

KS didnt look happy yesterday though being caught out.


JMGS4

8,895 posts

295 months

Thursday 12th February
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PMQs have been an idiots circus for some time... "Ya boo sucks" shouts and downright insulting behaviour......
I just wonder why a responsible person (probably the only one there) Sir Lindsay Hoyle, doesn't get a grip on things and tel them all to be quiet and to answer the questions correctly and truthfully (probably a bit much to ask that from a politician no matter what couleur!!!)

Derek Smith

49,167 posts

273 months

Thursday 12th February
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PMQs isn't there for the likes of us. It's a display of the prime minister's ability.

The questions are rather pointless, and are mirrored in the answers. However, PMQs provide a stage where the PM can show how in control they are, on top of all the problems, and in the process reassure the backbenchers. Starmer has been largely in control og PMQs for all his time due to not being tested but Badenoch has improved in that time. Still one-sided though.

Starmer comes in well-prepped and if is asked a difficult question, answers a different one. He's quite skilled at it. I thought Badenoch would have had an open goal with the resignations and the revelations, but she fluffed it.

Johnson was abysmal at PMQs as he apparently did little/no preparation, deciding to wing it. He would dump someone else in his spot if things weren't going too well. Truss was inept. She gave the appearance on not knowing what was going on and her support, what little there was of it, drained. Sunak was an improvement, but seemed put out a few times by Starmer.

The only one I can remember who cracked PMQs was Corbyn. He ignored all restrictive procedures. I always assumed he was showing contempt. It is, after all, a farce; a show for MPs, and it has been frequently criticised as being nothing more that a boy's club.

I normally watch it if I'm available, but it's been pretty bland since Starmer took over. Not fun.