Our King

[lornemalvo]

Judge this privileged, adulterous, pampered ponce, who accepted cash in carrier bags from Arabs, by the way he treats people: https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/royal-family...

[PRO5T]

Not that I think he’s an amazing person but I feel that says more about the poor painter and decorator than the King.

[BikeBikeBIke]

Asking for work to be redone and swapping contractors is totally normal in all fields of life.

[lornemalvo]

he was self employed, but had worked for them for 30 years. In my experience, you look after good contractors and perhaps show a little loyalty.

[greygoose]

lornemalvo said:

he was self employed, but had worked for them for 30 years. In my experience, you look after good contractors and perhaps show a little loyalty.

Given he had to redo the work maybe he wasn’t that good?

[lornemalvo]

greygoose said:

lornemalvo said:

he was self employed, but had worked for them for 30 years. In my experience, you look after good contractors and perhaps show a little loyalty.

Given he had to redo the work maybe he wasn t that good?

It doesn't say whether it was the work or the colour scheme that was the problem. but you don't use someone for 30 years if they're not up to scratch. It stated that he was often selected where the highest quality work was required. Letting him do the prep and then fetching someone else in feels like a deliberate slap in the face.

[turbobloke]

lornemalvo said:

greygoose said:

lornemalvo said:

he was self employed, but had worked for them for 30 years. In my experience, you look after good contractors and perhaps show a little loyalty.

Given he had to redo the work maybe he wasn t that good?

It doesn't say whether it was the work or the colour scheme that was the problem. but you don't use someone for 30 years if they're not up to scratch. It stated that he was often selected where the highest quality work was required. Letting him do the prep and then fetching someone else in feels like a deliberate slap in the face.

I agree, his overbearing reaction is typical of the man.

[king arthur]

Is it the King himself who hires the subcontractors?

[butchstewie]

There have been similar stories about his treatment of gardeners at Highgrove.

All that said I think it's a leap to try to blame him for the behaviour of someone who sounds like there were other factors at play in their actions.

[greygoose]

king arthur said:

Is it the King himself who hires the subcontractors?

You tell us, seems unlikely though.

[crofty1984]

You think the King is directly involved with the hiring and firing of contractors? There's probably two levels of estate management before it gets to the job. It's very sad that this poor chap died the way he did, but I don't think you can use that as part of a character assassination of The King. And I say that as someone fairly ambivalent towards the royals.

[Furbo]

lornemalvo said:

Judge this privileged, adulterous, pampered ponce, who accepted cash in carrier bags from Arabs, by the way he treats people: https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/royal-family...

There is another side to this story, which we are unlikely to hear.

[BikeBikeBIke]

lornemalvo said:

Letting him do the prep and then fetching someone else in feels like a deliberate slap in the face.

So the King wakes up and thinks "I'd really like to give a contractor a deliberate slap in the face.". Then he summons his Palace manager and passes on his cunning plan to that guy who tells the maintenance guy, who decides to join in the plan to be a dick to someone and deviously hires the guy and then replaces him.

Does the King even do his own painting quality control? Or did a surveyor take a look and say it wasn't up to scratch without Charlie ever seeing it?

Put it another way, if the painting was so bad that Charlie noticed it it must have been dreadful. In which case wouldn't the guy who signs off on contractors work have also spotted it?

This is a total non-story.

Jimmy Carter personally managed the Whitehouse tennis bookings so maybe Charlie does personally supervise the decorators.... I doubt it though.

[Puddenchucker]

Obviously, it's tragic when someone takes their own life.

However, I don't think the article gives enough information to apportion blame entirely to the King.

How much direct input in selecting contractors did the King have vs the management of Sandringham?
He was 63 years old so probably not that far of retirement. Maybe, Sandringham were trying out other contractors to ensure they had replacements in place?
Was Sandringham the only customer that had reduced the work allocated to this chap? What about his other customers?
Were there other issues in his life that also affected his mental health?

Businesses win and lose customers all the time, that's a fact of buisness life.

[PugwasHDJ80]

seriously all, get a grip

they had some thing repainted- the owner said, i don't like that colour, can we get it repainted

The royal household then deals with everything else

We have a current client exactly in this space who holds the king warrant and contracts for this type of work in the palaces. I can't promise you that none of the decisions of who to use are anywhere near any of the royal family personally.

[Hippea]

butchstewie said:

There have been similar stories about his treatment of gardeners at Highgrove.

Yes I know of a senior gardener who worked there and said he was really rather awful.

I think (maybe hope..) that people will wake up one day and be done with this institution. It's so obvious the positive royal PR machine is wrapped up in so much of our society.

[Skodillac]

Leopards, spots.

https://www.scotsman.com/news/uk-news/princes-blas...

For such a mediocre mind and academic underachiver, despite every privilege and advantage imaginable, to say such things is a sure sign of someone utterly convinced of their own superiority despite all evidence to the contrary.

Be gone with these child-abuse enabling fools - for he surely always knew what Andrew was up to, as would his mother.

If he's so convinced of his unique suitability to the role of UK Head of State, then he shouldn't be afraid of putting that to the test in an election. And no, I don't mean creating a US-style Executive Presidency, I mean standing against others to perform the role which exists in the UK as a non-Executive Head of State - but with a crucial improvement that, as a result of a democratic mandate, the Head of State would then be able to step in and prevent Executive over-reach (e.g such things as Boris Johnson unlawfully closing Parliament for his own political ends). i.e. they'd be more use than ornament for the first time. That is the situation which exists in the best democracies the world has to offer - Ireland, Germany, Finland, Iceland etc. Why not us? Why must be beholden to whichever non-entity slips out of a specific vagina?

Edited by Skodillac on Thursday 12th February 10:01

[BikeBikeBIke]

Skodillac said:

https://www.scotsman.com/news/uk-news/princes-blas...

For such a mediocre mind and academic underachiver, despite every privilege and advantage imaginable, to say such things is a sure sign of someone utterly convinced of their own superiority despite all evidence to the contrary.

Eh?

He's not a pop star or a high court judge or a brilliant TV personality and he's not claiming to be.

[TheJimi]

lornemalvo said:

Judge this privileged, adulterous, pampered ponce, who accepted cash in carrier bags from Arabs, by the way he treats people: https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/royal-family...

I'm no Royalist, but there's a lot of assumptions and mental gymnastics going on within your post.

[king arthur]

Skodillac said:

Be gone with these child-abuse enabling fools - for he surely always knew what Andrew was up to, as would his mother.

Can you be so sure? Do you know about everything your siblings get up to?