Who would we actually like as a leader?
Who would we actually like as a leader?
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miniman

Original Poster:

29,192 posts

284 months

I read (and occasionally contribute to) threads here where the various negatives of leaders, political or otherwise, are voiced. There s plenty of disdain for Starmer, Badenoch, Johnson, Sunak, Farage, Corbyn and others (and rightly so in many cases) but there s never much discussion about who we WOULD like, or at least rate, as a leader.

For me, it s someone who has intellect, is fundamentally decent, statesmanlike and authoritative. Crucially they must also have been successful in their field - no career politicians for me.

Obama is perhaps the de-facto answer, but I have time for Mark Carney who has had a long and successful career before moving into politics. I wonder if Branson would be a good choice.

I do worry that fundamentally, simply wanting to be PM is enough of a reason to make someone unsuitable. But aside of that, who is your pick?


SpeckledJim

32,437 posts

275 months

Randy Winkman

20,509 posts

211 months

Nice bloke above. I dont really watch him much on TV but would Martin Lewis the money "expert" be any good?

Mr Penguin

4,049 posts

61 months

Randy Winkman said:
Nice bloke above. I dont really watch him much on TV but would Martin Lewis the money "expert" be any good?
No, he's an idiot on par with the Burgon.

M1AGM

4,278 posts

54 months

Penny

Smollet

14,949 posts

212 months

There’s only one person and that’s Clarkson wink

sparta6

4,264 posts

122 months

Smollet said:
There s only one person and that s Clarkson wink
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Clarkson was correct about Mandelson 15 years ago.

Shame that Starmer couldn't see it and call it

swisstoni

21,988 posts

301 months

Starmer seemed to fit the bill. After the mayhem at the end of the Tory tenure he seemed just the palate cleanser. Someone who'd risen to high position outside politics. Dull, dependable and stable. And he knew how to do things better because he'd been telling us so for years.

Well, so much for appearances.

snuffy

12,128 posts

306 months

miniman said:
For me, it s someone who has intellect, is fundamentally decent, statesmanlike and authoritative. Crucially they must also have been successful in their field - no career politicians for me.
And that is the problem.

Anyone with those qualities would not consider a career in politics. It's a hiding to nothing.

That's why you only have two types of politician now; The independently wealthy (who do it for a giggle) or the terminally dense (who do it because they could never hope to earn 90 washers a year, let alone £90k a year in any other job).

Anyone with an ounce of intelligence would steer well clear.




nikaiyo2

5,689 posts

217 months

Obama was a terrible leader, he did nothing, largely caused ISIS to rise caused the Ukraine war and created the worst of all worlds healthcare. If anything he symbolised what is going wrong with the west.

Jim Radcliffe would be a massive upgrade on the clowns we currently have. (This is not related to the current controversy.

WH16

7,920 posts

240 months

Can we have John Major back please?

nikaiyo2

5,689 posts

217 months

WH16 said:
Can we have John Major back please?
I would agree 100, 20 years ago, but he is 82 now.

snuffy

12,128 posts

306 months

Randy Winkman said:
Nice bloke above. I dont really watch him much on TV but would Martin Lewis the money "expert" be any good?
All he does is regurgitate stuff he's read on the internet.

He must wake up and wonder how on earth he got to where he is by simply telling people that rains makes you wet and it's a good idea to wipe your arse after you have had a dump.

croyde

25,443 posts

252 months

I just wish that we had a leader who actually wanted to govern this country frown

WH16

7,920 posts

240 months

nikaiyo2 said:
WH16 said:
Can we have John Major back please?
I would agree 100, 20 years ago, but he is 82 now.
I assumed the question was more rhetorical than an actual proposition to enact a change. hehe

swisstoni

21,988 posts

301 months

snuffy said:
Randy Winkman said:
Nice bloke above. I dont really watch him much on TV but would Martin Lewis the money "expert" be any good?
All he does is regurgitate stuff he's read on the internet.

He must wake up and wonder how on earth he got to where he is by simply telling people that rains makes you wet and it's a good idea to wipe your arse after you have had a dump.
Given his success there's clearly a fair constituency who need telling just that, figuratively speaking.

gazza285

10,809 posts

230 months

swisstoni said:
Starmer seemed to fit the bill. After the mayhem at the end of the Tory tenure he seemed just the palate cleanser. Someone who'd risen to high position outside politics. Dull, dependable and stable. And he knew how to do things better because he'd been telling us so for years.

Well, so much for appearances.
It doesn't really matter who leads Labour, as the makeup of the party will saddle them with brain dead Union stooges in too many key positions.

snuffy

12,128 posts

306 months

gazza285 said:
It doesn't really matter who leads Labour, as the makeup of the party will saddle them with brain dead Union stooges in too many key positions.
But if you also have a brain dead union stooge as PM then your (i.e. the PM's) problem goes away. i.e. Rayner.

Bright Halo

3,797 posts

257 months

David Milliband

How different things could have been if Labour had not elected the wrong brother as leader.

paulw123

4,430 posts

212 months

Was thinking about this the other day. In my opinion, the country needs to basically be run as a business, a full audit carried out. Income and outcome looked at. Huge reduction in waste. A few unpleasant decisions made. The absolute state this country is in now will just lead to its collapse and that will benefit nobody.

Unfortunately, even if the right person did turn up to try and run the country, they would just be shouted down and blocked from putting the policies needed into place either by members of their own party or just the shouting minority in the media and on social media.