Koran burner wins landmark blasphemy case
Koran burner wins landmark blasphemy case
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butchstewie

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66,750 posts

238 months

Friday 27th February
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I could have sworn there was a thread on this but I can't find it.

TL:DR man burns Koran gets stabbed, guy who stabs him gets suspended sentence, Koran burners conviction gets overturned, CPS appeal and lose.

Koran burner wins landmark blasphemy case

Right decision IMO.

oddman

4,176 posts

280 months

Friday 27th February
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Agree

Blasphemy is a victimless crime

Cold

16,597 posts

118 months

Friday 27th February
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oddman said:
Agree

Blasphemy is a victimless crime
It's not even a crime.

BikeBikeBIke

14,372 posts

143 months

Friday 27th February
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The original charge is even more bewildering: "Mr Coskun was originally charged by the CPS with harassing the “religious institution of Islam”."

I'm pretty slow to call for resignations but for the CPS to bust a gut over this is incomprehensible. Whoever thought this appeal was a good idea needs to go ASAP.

grumbledoak

32,526 posts

261 months

Friday 27th February
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Good. It's not a crime. It should not be a crime. He should not have been charged. It should not have been appealed

And yes whoever was responsible, if you can find anyone admitting such - should be thrown on his sword.

E34-3.2

1,126 posts

107 months

Friday 27th February
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Burning a Quran is not (should not) be blasphemous according to Islam.
Let's not forget that the third Kalif Uthman burned all the copies of the Quran which did not fit his narrative ("non conforming") during his lifetime.


Richard-390a0

3,445 posts

119 months

Friday 27th February
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butchstewie said:
I could have sworn there was a thread on this but I can't find it.
There was I remember reading it.

chemistry

3,292 posts

137 months

Friday 27th February
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butchstewie said:
I could have sworn there was a thread on this but I can't find it.

TL:DR man burns Koran gets stabbed, guy who stabs him gets suspended sentence, Koran burners conviction gets overturned, CPS appeal and lose.

Koran burner wins landmark blasphemy case

Right decision IMO.
Agreed; the correct decision. Sad that it took such a protracted process to get there.

ukwill

10,077 posts

235 months

Friday 27th February
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E34-3.2 said:
Burning a Quran is not (should not) be blasphemous according to Islam.
Let's not forget that the third Kalif Uthman burned all the copies of the Quran which did not fit his narrative ("non conforming") during his lifetime.
I mean who could forget that?

ukwill

10,077 posts

235 months

Friday 27th February
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This whole thing stinks of Hermer.

BikeBikeBIke

14,372 posts

143 months

Friday 27th February
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ukwill said:
I mean who could forget that?
I confess it had momentarily slipped my mind.

Gargamel

16,309 posts

289 months

Friday 27th February
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Richard-390a0 said:
butchstewie said:
I could have sworn there was a thread on this but I can't find it.
There was I remember reading it.
Yeah we burned it a while ago

gregs656

12,287 posts

209 months

Friday 27th February
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This is the right decision.

Britain is being far too slow on some of this stuff.

Gareth79

8,911 posts

274 months

Friday 27th February
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chemistry said:
butchstewie said:
I could have sworn there was a thread on this but I can't find it.

TL:DR man burns Koran gets stabbed, guy who stabs him gets suspended sentence, Koran burners conviction gets overturned, CPS appeal and lose.

Koran burner wins landmark blasphemy case

Right decision IMO.
Agreed; the correct decision. Sad that it took such a protracted process to get there.
On the other hand, it has set some good case law which others will find useful in the future.

In reading the previous judgment though, it was significant that it was outside an embassy:

"A protest outside someone’s home or a place of worship might well create an anticipation that those who witness it may feel vulnerable and, very easily, become harassed, alarmed or distressed. A protest outside a secure and recognised location for such activities, less so. "

MKnight702

3,418 posts

242 months

Friday 27th February
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Cold said:
oddman said:
Agree

Blasphemy is a victimless crime
It's not even a crime.
Absolutely, criticism of an idea is not, and should never be, a crime. The CPS tying themselves in knots to try and make it one is very worrying.

JagLover

46,692 posts

263 months

Friday 27th February
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Cold said:
It's not even a crime.
Probably soon will be if Labour get their anti-blasphemy law through under the pretence of tackling "Islamophobia".

scenario8

7,815 posts

207 months

Friday 27th February
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This is the thread.

https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...

Absolutely terrible that this saga got legs. In the (admittedly infinitesimally unlikely) alternative World where I found myself in this chap’s position I suspect my chances of funding a robust defence would be close to zero. So good for him, but what a concerning approach taken by the authorities.