Firms to be paid to hire unemployed young people
Discussion
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cz9qdpzqnl2o
Why was my immediate thought "this is open season for abuse"
Why was my immediate thought "this is open season for abuse"
tfa said:
A number of management apprenticeships, typically taken by those over 25, are being scrapped, with funding diverted to new courses in areas such as AI leadership and electric vehicle charging point installation.
Sure, management apprenticeships are a bit useless, but I`m sure there are skills we need that are not AI leadership (whatever TF that is) and EV charging point installation.Gargamel said:
So increase NI and the minium wage to raise money
Then spend money mitigating the effects of raising NI and the Minimum wage
Joined up Government in action
Give a company £3k one off to hire them, and get some of their salary back in NI and income tax, or pay the person £3172/year in JSA. It does sound like a level of joined up thinking going on but not gone as far as will they now just employ an under 24 rather than someone over 24 with a bit more experience.Then spend money mitigating the effects of raising NI and the Minimum wage
Joined up Government in action
It'll be interesting to see what impact this has on employment figures for the over 24s
ThingsBehindTheSun said:
It's not going to work, the people I know in their 20s who have never worked a day in their life have absolutely no intention of ever working. No, just live at home forever whilst playing XBox all day.
Yep. A young chef in one place I worked was proud of 'streaming' his plays to 'followers'. Shame he was half asleep on the actual job and a total liability.Kevin Bridges
So everything in this store is worth a pound, except you. Talking about being forced to work at Poundland for your dole.
Something needs to be done to get entitles kids off their arse, but this is a result of decades of mismanagement of education, skills and setting up people to fail into immense debt after education.
My supervisor at work has got his lad into work at the moment, great kid, games developer wants to be, no work there, he grafts, he does overtime he puts his time in, he will be fine, too many give up and rely on the state as they are ALLOWED to, my parents would have disowned me if I did that.
So everything in this store is worth a pound, except you. Talking about being forced to work at Poundland for your dole.
Something needs to be done to get entitles kids off their arse, but this is a result of decades of mismanagement of education, skills and setting up people to fail into immense debt after education.
My supervisor at work has got his lad into work at the moment, great kid, games developer wants to be, no work there, he grafts, he does overtime he puts his time in, he will be fine, too many give up and rely on the state as they are ALLOWED to, my parents would have disowned me if I did that.
RizzoTheRat said:
Gargamel said:
So increase NI and the minium wage to raise money
Then spend money mitigating the effects of raising NI and the Minimum wage
Joined up Government in action
Give a company £3k one off to hire them, and get some of their salary back in NI and income tax, or pay the person £3172/year in JSA. It does sound like a level of joined up thinking going on but not gone as far as will they now just employ an under 24 rather than someone over 24 with a bit more experience.Then spend money mitigating the effects of raising NI and the Minimum wage
Joined up Government in action
It'll be interesting to see what impact this has on employment figures for the over 24s
over_the_hill said:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cz9qdpzqnl2o
Why was my immediate thought "this is open season for abuse"
So they trash the economy and then think we need to spend more taxpayers money to sort this vs unwind all the damage they have done!Why was my immediate thought "this is open season for abuse"
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.:ian:. said:
tfa said:
A number of management apprenticeships, typically taken by those over 25, are being scrapped, with funding diverted to new courses in areas such as AI leadership and electric vehicle charging point installation.
Sure, management apprenticeships are a bit useless, but I`m sure there are skills we need that are not AI leadership (whatever TF that is) and EV charging point installation.
ttium language associated with this technology is already here.By now wasn't it meant to be doing jobs like leadership?
over_the_hill said:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cz9qdpzqnl2o
Why was my immediate thought "this is open season for abuse"
Yup. If you present people with a game, they'll play it to maximise their own advantage. Unless you're bloody careful "their own advantage" and what you're trying to achieve won't line up. Whether that's "abuse" or not is a matter of opinion. But the best way to avoid that is not to present the players with a game in the first place, or at least to keep it as clear, simple and stable as possible. Why was my immediate thought "this is open season for abuse"
If you make it harder to sack people and more expensive to employ them, all else equal it's going to reduce the demand for inexperienced low-wage labour more than it reduces demand in the rest of the labour market. It might be worth accepting that if you think the labour market really needs structural reform. But if you think you need to take targeted measures, don't recreate the same perverse incentives you were trying to eliminate in the first place. I.e. don't create an incentive with a cliff edge. For example, if you want to incentivise employers to hire young inexperienced workers, maybe taper in employer NI by employee age.
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